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D1 DDH
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Registered: 3rd Jul 04
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5th May 09 at 20:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

had my mk5 1.4tsi revo'd the other week and had it on the dyno last weekend.

heres the results, i think its pretty impressive from a 1.4



going for a decat next so should free up a bit more hopefully
Jay
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5th May 09 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What are they standard?
D1 DDH
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5th May 09 at 20:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

140
mattk
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5th May 09 at 20:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

70bhp from a map?
Corsa_Sport21
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5th May 09 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yep Mattk it is pretty unbeleivable but true.Both the 140 and 170bhp models remap to aound 205bhp with the revo and around 200lb/ft.
Ben G
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torque is pants though
antnee
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5th May 09 at 21:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Revo quote the 140 and 170bhp versions go to 205bhp +
mattk
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5th May 09 at 21:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yea torque is a bit gay, mine has 255ft/lbs
Adam_B
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5th May 09 at 21:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats a mk5 1.4tsi ?
Corsa_Sport21
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5th May 09 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
whats a mk5 1.4tsi ?


Mk5 Golf.
Stu
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5th May 09 at 21:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is that the compound charged one?

Good results that! Whats the driveability like with it being such a small engine?

RCS
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5th May 09 at 21:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats a very impressive torque curve.
Wrighty
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5th May 09 at 21:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
torque is pants though


not really from a 1.4
Corsa_Sport21
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5th May 09 at 21:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A 1.4 that would tear a CTR,quality.
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
torque is pants though


not really from a 1.4


impressive too when it continues all the way past 6.5k rpm!

most dervs only rev to about 4k.
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
A 1.4 that would tear a CTR,quality.


doubt it.
Ben G
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5th May 09 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
torque is pants though


not really from a 1.4


no denying that, just thought it would be a bit closer to the max bhp.
Paul_J
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5th May 09 at 21:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ben... any car that makes it's peak power figure above 5252 will have less peak torque than power.

Any car that makes peak power under 5252, will have more peak torque than peak power.

This is because the 2 figures are interlinked and are simple mathmatical formula based, not 2 seperate entities.
andy1868
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5th May 09 at 21:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

more than mine tbh, then again, not hard

i assume you're happy with the results?

[Edited on 05-05-2009 by andy1868]
Paul_J
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5th May 09 at 21:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

People forget about power delivery, gear ratios, etc...

Too many people these days get hooked on 'torque' figures and think cars will be amazingly fast.

In my opinion it just often shows people's lack of mechanical knowledge and what the actual relevance of power / torque / etc is.
lostboy
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5th May 09 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
A 1.4 that would tear a CTR,quality.


Tear a CTR?
RCS
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5th May 09 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

People should all just realise that a turbo diesel two stroke with CVT is the way forward.
D1 DDH
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quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
more than mine tbh, then again, not hard

i assume you're happy with the results?

[Edited on 05-05-2009 by andy1868]


yeah really happy with the results

was expecting around 190 at the fly, can anyone reccomend mods to increase the torque? obviously not looking for big gains but a bit closer to 200ftlbs would be nice.

the driveability is still very good, car pulls all the way to the limit and spins in 3rd in the wet

best thing is i can still average 39mpg (if i drive like a granny)
Wrighty
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5th May 09 at 22:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by D1 DDH
quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
more than mine tbh, then again, not hard

i assume you're happy with the results?

[Edited on 05-05-2009 by andy1868]



was expecting around 190 at the fly, can anyone reccomend mods to increase the torque? obviously not looking for big gains but a bit closer to 200ftlbs would be nice.




more capacity

look at lightening the load on the crank, lighter flywheel & pullies could do the trick
Corsa_Sport21
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6th May 09 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
People forget about power delivery, gear ratios, etc...

Too many people these days get hooked on 'torque' figures and think cars will be amazingly fast.

In my opinion it just often shows people's lack of mechanical knowledge and what the actual relevance of power / torque / etc is.


But in most cases its true.Torque is what pulls you along the road.

Diesels are different due to the gear ratios yes,but the in gear speeds of a diesel with high torque would make the car quicker than the equivilent petrol with the same BHP.

My comment was purely based on that fact.Stick a CTR and a Revo'd 1.4 TSI side by side at say 30mph and both go for it,id bet the Golf would pull away quite easily.

Another example is say a DC2 with circa 190bhp against a Corsa XE with circa 150bhp.Both cars weigh about the same,with the Corsa probably being a tad heavier.
Talking from personal experience here,the Corsa would come out on top weather it be from a standstill or a rolling start.Why.....Because the torque figure is marginally higher for the 2.0 than it is the 1.8.

The idea for an all round quick engine is to have the BHP/torque around the same or as close to each other as possible.

[Edited on 06-05-2009 by Corsa_Sport21]

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