bethoml
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how much power have people had out of there x16xes and c16xes.
what has been done to them?
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thegsi
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I believe Broster and Dave A have 190bhp+ from theirs so there's great potential. Get the air flow sorted first as they're very restricted in standard form (X16) Monster did simple mods like straight through system, filter and Mantzel inlet and it made 20bhp. Thats the most common start point for these engines.
[Edited on 12-03-2009 by thegsi]
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Linch
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Im making 157bhp on standard cams 
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broster
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i had 190bhp on a standard bottom end.
change the inlet for best power per £
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bethoml
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ive got a inlet and straight through. no cat etc. its not slow but its not exactly as quck as it should be. im having a rebuild done soon. new rings seals gaskets etc. as it does smoke like a bitch so think im loosing alot of power there
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Linch
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Per £....so not bodies then 
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Nic Barnes
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whats the most you can make on an inlet manifold without going to tb's? ive seen wild claims of 180bhp before on ebay. any truth?
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bethoml
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id be more than happy with 140ish bhp whats next?
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thegsi
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
whats the most you can make on an inlet manifold without going to tb's? ive seen wild claims of 180bhp before on ebay. any truth?
Can't imagine that being true. I'd say around 150bhp/160bhp?
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by bethoml
id be more than happy with 140ish bhp whats next?
a 20xe conversion. its far cheaper to begin with.
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Linch
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to be honest you should be around that figure anyway, they make 130bhp with dbilas inlet on.
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bethoml
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thats my idea for next project. either that or a v6. just gona keep this one a 1.6
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by bethoml
thats my idea for next project. either that or a v6. just gona keep this one a 1.6
speak to tomturbo. he will sort you out a v6 turbo conversion no problems
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bethoml
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was just thinking a standard 2.5
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Nic Barnes
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better off fitting an xe really then. te motorsport will be worth a call though. they seem to really know theyre stuff with conversions and corsas. local aswell.
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bethoml
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yeh ive bin in touch wiv tom quite alot. hes polishing back my paint when its all painted so it will be nice and shiney
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DizzyRebel
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Nah bang a 3.0 V6 in there. More useable than an XE and nicer driving characteristics.
I had a 2.5 with MSD cams, fpr, software and straight through exhaust and it was far faster and much nicer on the road than an XE is. A 3.0 is the same power out the box anyway so may as well just fit a 3.0, more torque than a 2.5
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Nic Barnes
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v6 then te motorsport turbo conversion then. differnt to the common as much xe and let conversions.
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DizzyRebel
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Whats this turbo conversion you speak of? sounds interesting...
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Nic Barnes
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speak to te motorsport about it. can turbo or 4wd anything.
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gavin18787
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I had 126bhp with a chip, headwork, exhaust, manifold and inlet
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Jenko_Sport
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Leo Scott had about 170bhp without bodies.
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DizzyRebel
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
speak to te motorsport about it. can turbo or 4wd anything.
So can power crazy over her in lincoln but id rather do it myself if hes just knocking up manifolds on a welder without some real money being spend on R&D of off the shelf kits.
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sand-eel
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I would say 180BHP with a standard inlet probably is possible, just make it rev massive head work, mental cams
SBD managed 240bhp with bodies so 180bhp without seems probable.
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
I would say 180BHP with a standard inlet probably is possible, just make it rev massive head work, mental cams
SBD managed 240bhp with bodies so 180bhp without seems probable.
for hat power i think it would be with an enlarged single throttle body, comoplete new inlet, like the velos pulse what ever it was, management, cams, full on engine build....
180bhp with a totally standard inlet, not possible IMO
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