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23rd Feb 09 at 16:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


Anyone else seen these?
Just driving along and they have coned the road into 1 lane and pulling random cars over for an emissions test, luckely I got past as I look respectable
Anyone with a de-cat be aware!!!!
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What is the penalty for failing emissions but you have a valid MOT? (ie people with decats who swap them for MOTs)
Adam-D
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23rd Feb 09 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wonder what would happen if you actually had all emmsions stuff fitted but passed a mot, but failed roadside??
John
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Thay would mean your car was broken.
Paul_J
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I've never seen one of these

but this concerns me... my whole exhaust requires changing (you can't just swap the 'cat' or the 'center section'.

As people say, what's the penalty if you get caught and have a valid MOT.
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
What is the penalty for failing emissions but you have a valid MOT? (ie people with decats who swap them for MOTs)

I also want to know this - purely out of interest, of course
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Roadside Emission Checks
How is the check carried out?
The test is carried out by inserting a probe into the exhaust pipe and measuring the emissions. The reading given by the test will indicate whether the levels comply with the MOT test standards. If the emissions levels do not comply with the requirements the driver of the car will be given a prohibition notice stopping use of the vehicle.

What do I do if I get a prohibition?
For a minor offence, the prohibition will generally be delayed to give owners a short period to have the vehicle repaired and brought back within legal limits. If your vehicle is greatly exceeding the limits you will not be allowed to carry on your journey until the defect has been put right.

In either case you will have to carry out the necessary repair work and have the prohibition cleared within 14 days or you will be liable to prosecution. You may be cautioned at the roadside. The prohibition notice will explain what you must do to have it cleared. You will normally be required to have a full MOT test.

To enable continued compliance with environmental requirements, VOSA conduct exhaust emission checks in two ways. Firstly, VOSA Examiners carry out metered emission checks at the roadside and secondly certain classes of vehicles that are subject to an MOT Test will receive at least one metered or visual (dependant on date of first use) check per year.

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Are these not VOSA as opposed to the police, i've coincidentally seen a VOSA van a couple of times recently having never seen one before in my life.
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Shit!
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Without a cat, the emissions would be miles off. It would suck having your car impounded for that!
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
Shit!


not too bad mate...

you just drive away, go get your mate to re mot your car / swap the exhaust over and get mot'd and then carry on driving.
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
Without a cat, the emissions would be miles off. It would suck having your car impounded for that!


it doesn't say your car will be impounded, it says you won't be able to continue your journey... So I'd assume you could phone the RAC explain the situation and get your car recovered to a garage / mot center / home?
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23rd Feb 09 at 18:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my 106 GTI passed an MOT with a Decat on
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plug me lap top in and keep taking fuel out the map until it passes. drive off. restore the original file. happy days.
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my C20XE corsa did once too But yeah, Paul, its still a pretty major inconvenience having to do that just for having high emissions. Don't see why they couldnt just give you a rectification notice?
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My 106 got through the mot with a loop hole, in the MOT book is states any car before a year (cant remember what year exactly) doesnt need an emissions test if it has a non standard engine change. Could apply for people with xe's aswell.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
plug me lap top in and keep taking fuel out the map until it passes. drive off. restore the original file. happy days.


i tired that,

could only get either the HC in torlances or C02 not both

had to fit a cat
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Warren carrys tools and a cat in the boot at all times I have heard............


Drives supercharged Tec with torque
Nic Barnes
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well thats how i got my fuelling in spec for the mot. i dont need a cat test as its a 1989 block and engine number so i get away with that.
Warren G
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ah, i see

george
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im curious about this as ive got a 1996 corsa but a early 20XE engine which did not have a cat in the original car so would i still need a cat as my car is after 1992?
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drive a derv????
scottmmw
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my 106 gti with decat has past the last 2 mots
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Just had my MOT (without the decat on) and the guy I was speaking to said that with a decat on it doubles if not trebles your emissions

It's very rare to see those people doing roadside emissions tests though
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quote:
Originally posted by george
im curious about this as ive got a 1996 corsa but a early 20XE engine which did not have a cat in the original car so would i still need a cat as my car is after 1992?


As long as you can prove engine precedes cat regulations then no.

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