will_ainsworth
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right as some of you may know i can never just keep a car and be happy. now i have the ibiza cupra, ive had thoughts on keeping it and modding it so i can see 240bhp but i always get to the point where i think i really cba spending loads on it and never really seeing any money back, and i drove a 200bhp cupra and i couldnt feel any difference when driving, just its obvious when side by side. anyway been looking at insurance on the vx220 for my 19th (n/a 2.2) and its only 300 od more quid than the cupra will be. also looking at the z4 2.5. what would you go for. i miss the fun from my 106gti too.
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Hamish
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I would just save up and get a lambo
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will_ainsworth
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I would just save up and get a lambo
lol ill get one for my 25th
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Ben-B
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Id keep your cupra  love that car
but if your dead set on selling, VX220 would get my vote
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will_ainsworth
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i love my cupra too, but its not fun. my gti made me feel like i was 5 lol and loved how it handled. surely the vx would be like that but better!
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Corsa_Sport21
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Lotus Exige???
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will_ainsworth
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Lotus Exige???
ill be 19... insurance says no. also are the n/a very tunable?
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mk4_astra
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get a z3 3.0, a fair bit cheaper than the z4 and faster
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Ben-B
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Lotus Exige???
ill be 19... insurance says no. also are the n/a very tunable?
isnt the exige celica mk4 engined?
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chris_uk
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the vx isnt as fast as the top spec z4, as i raced one when i was picking up my side vents, off the mark i was quicker but when rolling at about 80 he was deffinatly faster, but not by much..
if your just using it to cruise with then the z4, if your wanting fun and better handling then the 220..
and dont be put off by ppl saying you dont want one unless you get the turbo, in the real world around a track the 2.2 is just as fast on a tight and twisty but on the straights the tubby does pull ahead abit better.
the na is lighter by 100kg and lots of the vx lot seem to think it handles better as standard, the springs that come on the bilsteins are abit stiffer on the na.
but back to your question..
for crusing and just general driving and good build quality = Z4
for everything else, fun, good handling, good off the mark grunt = vx220
[Edited on 30-11-2008 by chris_uk]
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Corsa_Sport21
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quote:
Originally posted by will_ainsworth
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Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
Lotus Exige???
ill be 19... insurance says no. also are the n/a very tunable?
Why would u want it too be tuneable??On the road with a good driver behind the wheel,it will probably leave most cars behind.
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Colin
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Dont think id have either of those, although im currently looking out the window where everythings covered in frost & thinking a 2 seater convertible wouldnt be all that much fun!!
Your not going to see the money back on any car either so just stick with the cupra!
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Nismo
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id choose neither, but i would consider 
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/805879.htm
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chris_uk
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will, the 2.2 is slightly tunable, as with most na cars you only start getting propper power figures with a s/c, ITB's or turbo conversions..
the main improvements atm seem to be
:- better induction kit (pipercross viper etc)
:- 2.4 manifold (loses a little low end torque but gives a good gain at the top end)
:- remove precat (not proven this does anything but it cant harm it by removing)
:- Dblias exhaust mani (brings back the low end torque and still keeps the high end power)
with those mods and a stage 2 remap your looking at 170ish bhp
atm thats it.. there is a piper 4-1 being develovped atm which will be better than the dblias one but we will have to wait and see..
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chris_uk
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Originally posted by Nismo
id choose neither, but i would consider
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/805879.htm
lol, i would tend to agree tbh.
in honestly, it depends what you want, and what car you like the most.... i fell in love with the vx220 when the first one came off the production line.. and to this day i still love it just the same.. i look out of the window and just think that i finally have one and still love it just as much.
each time i drive it i just love it.. yea there are more comfy cars, better build cars, faster cars.. but atm i dont really care that much..
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chris_uk
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
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Originally posted by Nismo
id choose neither, but i would consider
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/805879.htm
nis, i like that 
in honestly will, it depends what you want, and what car you like the most.... i fell in love with the vx220 when the first one came off the production line.. and to this day i still love it just the same.. i look out of the window and just think that i finally have one and still love it just as much.
each time i drive it i just love it.. yea there are more comfy cars, better build cars, faster cars.. but atm i dont really care that much..
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will_ainsworth
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Originally posted by chris_uk
will, the 2.2 is slightly tunable, as with most na cars you only start getting propper power figures with a s/c, ITB's or turbo conversions..
the main improvements atm seem to be
:- better induction kit (pipercross viper etc)
:- 2.4 manifold (loses a little low end torque but gives a good gain at the top end)
:- remove precat (not proven this does anything but it cant harm it by removing)
:- Dblias exhaust mani (brings back the low end torque and still keeps the high end power)
with those mods and a stage 2 remap your looking at 170ish bhp
atm thats it.. there is a piper 4-1 being develovped atm which will be better than the dblias one but we will have to wait and see..
awesome cheers for the help 170 in a box is more than enough! yours looks lovely, how much did u pay? and when? and how much is it roughly worth now?
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will_ainsworth
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
id choose neither, but i would consider
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/805879.htm
lovely but at 19 i cant insure it.
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mk4_astra
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IMO abit of a dark horse that seems to get over looked and much better looking than earlier z3's:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/789849.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/784835.htm
though if it has to be between a vx220 and a z4 then you have to seriously condsider if you could live with the vx220 for everyday use.
i know they are slightly more comfortable than an elise but after going for a passanger ride in an elise im not sure i could live with one for everyday use, very basic with hard seats and a hard ride and a pig to get in and out of, saying that it was fast and handled like nothing else i had been in
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chris_uk
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when i drove 5 hours yesterday from cardiff, i didnt once get back ache, or feel strained or anything, but the missis does get back ache in the passenger seat..
in the drivers seat you have a lumbar support (like a bag inside that seat that inflates and deflates) which can make it more comfy.
the vx unfortunatly isnt for everyone..
will mine cost me £10k with 19k on the clock in april 07 and its probably worth about 8.5 - 9ish now, but i recon once the country has picked itsself back up i could get what i paid for it. but i dont really plan on selling it so i aint fussed
[Edited on 30-11-2008 by chris_uk]
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will_ainsworth
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lol yeh the only thing i can think of is the getting in and out lol, im 6ft chris how tall are you and how do u find it?
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chris_uk
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i find it a piece of piss, but if im honest i dont get in and out alot, i dont drive it alot you see..
but its not too bad, im 5' 10 and fat, and its fine.
you might get pissed off
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chris_uk
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6qGN1TNZ1mI
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will_ainsworth
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is it your first car? or weekend toy?
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chris_uk
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i had the 1.2 corsa, then the punto gt (165bhp) then this...
i would say im a fairly competant driver, i know when and when not to act like a cunt, and i know how to handle a rwd car pretty well.
but... this car can bite, and people have written there cars off going 20mph round a corner in the rain and ending up hugging a lamp post.
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