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XE luke

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25th Nov 08 at 18:10

as above really
unsure wether to convert corsa to a XE or put in a 1.6 sport or gsi engine and set it up on jenveys or similar..
anyone had any experience with a t'bodied 1.6??
what they like to drive? do they feel quick and what kinda power they give??
also a rough cost for the work??

just thinkin it might be more sensible to do this than an XE ( XE's becomming to common now and its very hard to find a good donor engine)

cheers luke

av it

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25th Nov 08 at 18:11

warren g had or has a 1.6 on tb

Ste L

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25th Nov 08 at 18:12

i'd personally got xe, then add bodies on that...

no replacement for displacment as they said

broster

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25th Nov 08 at 18:12

i used my 190bhp 1.6 tb'd corsa on a daily basis for 8 months with no problems, depends on how its mapped, if its mapped well itll drive nicer than standard, if not then itll be a pig, choose who does it carefully!

basic tb conversion is £2750 from jamsport

Wrighty

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25th Nov 08 at 18:14

quote:
Originally posted by broster

basic tb conversion is £2750 from jamsport

for that money id buy and xe, rebuild, 2.1 rebore. cams

adz_gsi

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25th Nov 08 at 18:38

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
i'd personally got xe, then add bodies on that...

no replacement for displacment as they said

there is m8 its called boost some1 told me that before on diff forum m8 but i know what ya mean

Ste L

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25th Nov 08 at 18:41

quote:
Originally posted by adz_gsi

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
i'd personally got xe, then add bodies on that...

no replacement for displacment as they said

there is m8 its called boost some1 told me that before on diff forum m8 but i know what ya mean

we are talking NA here, no mention's of turbo's

but then, with with a turbo, a bigger cc engine will be better than a smaller one

Linch

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25th Nov 08 at 18:42

I use mine as a everyday car

XE luke

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25th Nov 08 at 20:43

seems a lot to me though
almost 3k

think ill go XE... cheaper haha

thanks a lot

taylorboosh

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25th Nov 08 at 20:57

although he has a tainted name, speak to dave a about his tb corsa also

Warren G

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25th Nov 08 at 21:50

be quicker than a XE

be more run to drive

and the noise

XE luke

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25th Nov 08 at 23:07

i would honestly love to tb the 1.6 but i couldnt justify spending that much money on converting a 1.6 to tb's for that price i could buy and rebuild a decent let!!!

Linch

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26th Nov 08 at 05:25

mine didnt cost 3k to do.

broster

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26th Nov 08 at 07:57

2750 is to pay someone to fit and supply a brand new throttle body kit, linkage, injectors, fuel rail, ecu and loom, then map it.

you can compare it to building a cheap let then putting new gaskets on it yourself then fitting it yourself.

if you did the work yourself on the tb kit is would be alot cheaper

Ant

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26th Nov 08 at 10:36

fitting the tb's and ecu is easy, hell even i managed it, its the mapping you really need to pay for.

Daimo B

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26th Nov 08 at 11:14

quote:
Originally posted by broster
2750 is to pay someone to fit and supply a brand new throttle body kit, linkage, injectors, fuel rail, ecu and loom, then map it.

you can compare it to building a cheap let then putting new gaskets on it yourself then fitting it yourself.

if you did the work yourself on the tb kit is would be alot cheaper

Aye, but thats what, 150-160bhp.....
Let's far more than that standard, then easily tunable to 240-270 with very minimal costs.

So, i'd go with the 2.0, then put TB on that if you want more. Putting stress on a 1.6, which your never gonna get the torque from (even Andys 214bhp monster could only manage 145lb, which is what 2.0 put out standard)).

Plus, for the rate above, you could get an XE in, and a 2nd hand TB setup, and have 170bhp ish, with similar torque..

2.0..... Yes its been done loads, but theres a reason for that.

broster

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26th Nov 08 at 12:52

quote:
Originally posted by VXR

quote:
Originally posted by broster
2750 is to pay someone to fit and supply a brand new throttle body kit, linkage, injectors, fuel rail, ecu and loom, then map it.

you can compare it to building a cheap let then putting new gaskets on it yourself then fitting it yourself.

if you did the work yourself on the tb kit is would be alot cheaper

Aye, but thats what, 150-160bhp.....
Let's far more than that standard, then easily tunable to 240-270 with very minimal costs.

So, i'd go with the 2.0, then put TB on that if you want more. Putting stress on a 1.6, which your never gonna get the torque from (even Andys 214bhp monster could only manage 145lb, which is what 2.0 put out standard)).

Plus, for the rate above, you could get an XE in, and a 2nd hand TB setup, and have 170bhp ish, with similar torque..

2.0..... Yes its been done loads, but theres a reason for that.

you dont build a tuned high reving 1.6 to get torque.

Daimo B

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26th Nov 08 at 13:43

You don't build a high revving XE for torque either.

In fact, you don't build any 4 pot 2.0 for torque????

But i speak the truth though

1.2 16v is worse than a 1.4 16v
1.4 16v is worse than a 1.6 16v.

Guess whats next

Its all relative.

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26th Nov 08 at 13:47

small blocks are much more fun that big blocks IMO, and ive driven/been out in some good ones

Luke

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26th Nov 08 at 13:50

quote:
Originally posted by jr
small blocks are much more fun that big blocks IMO, and ive driven/been out in some good ones

So why are you building a 2.0?

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26th Nov 08 at 13:51

quote:
Originally posted by XE luke
i would honestly love to tb the 1.6 but i couldnt justify spending that much money on converting a 1.6 to tb's for that price i could buy and rebuild a decent let!!!

for 1700 (minus the price of a doner LET) i dont see how you could

pistons 500, turbo 500, bearings 100 and you have £600 left for rods ? arps/flywheel/ecu/intercooler etc

and still that would leave you with a standard engine

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26th Nov 08 at 13:56

quote:
Originally posted by Luke

quote:
Originally posted by jr
small blocks are much more fun that big blocks IMO, and ive driven/been out in some good ones

So why are you building a 2.0?

Because orginally i had a 1.28v, then stuck a 1.4 16v in with 136+ bhp, then sold that off, and built a standard 1.6 with the 1.4 head, standard ECU, with a lexmaul, manifold etc, great engine, untill the oil pump went

decided to rebuild the car, and make it the utimate evolution and the final build of it and do it properly, and at that time a cheap xe bottom end came up, bought that and then the tb's etc so sort of stuck with that now

i also wanted to prove the theory that the big block cars can be made to handle

even though im building it im big enough to admit the small blocks are so much more fun

[Edited on 26-11-2008 by jr]

Luke

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26th Nov 08 at 14:01

quote:
Originally posted by jr

quote:
Originally posted by Luke

quote:
Originally posted by jr
small blocks are much more fun that big blocks IMO, and ive driven/been out in some good ones

So why are you building a 2.0?

Because orginally i had a 1.28v, then stuck a 1.4 16v in with 136+ bhp, then sold that off, and built a standard 1.6 with the 1.4 head, standard ECU, with a lexmaul, manifold etc, great engine, untill the oil pump went

decided to rebuild the car, and make it the utimate evolution and the final build of it and do it properly, and at that time a cheap xe bottom end came up, bought that and then the tb's etc

i also wanted to prove the theory that the big block cars can be made to handle

even though im building it im im big enough to admit the small blocks are so much more fun

Fair play to what you've just said. But do you think your big block XE will out handle a small block XE?

Daimo B

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26th Nov 08 at 14:04

Weight can be compensated for with suspension settings, camber etc...

Sure it'll understear a little more, but the extra umph out the corners will even that issue out.

XE's look prettier in the bay

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26th Nov 08 at 14:19

quote:
Originally posted by Luke

quote:
Originally posted by jr

quote:
Originally posted by Luke

quote:
Originally posted by jr
small blocks are much more fun that big blocks IMO, and ive driven/been out in some good ones

So why are you building a 2.0?

Because orginally i had a 1.28v, then stuck a 1.4 16v in with 136+ bhp, then sold that off, and built a standard 1.6 with the 1.4 head, standard ECU, with a lexmaul, manifold etc, great engine, untill the oil pump went

decided to rebuild the car, and make it the utimate evolution and the final build of it and do it properly, and at that time a cheap xe bottom end came up, bought that and then the tb's etc

i also wanted to prove the theory that the big block cars can be made to handle

even though im building it im im big enough to admit the small blocks are so much more fun

Fair play to what you've just said. But do you think your big block XE will out handle a small block XE?

If they had identical brakes (which i doubt) pedal box, suspension, geometry, tyres etc, then yes, the small block would out and handle my car

diffrence is im really trying to push the boat out with a few componants, so only cars like brosters and andy h's would be better i would hope

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