mattk
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I know I have a Fiat but stick with it, If I ask this on FiatFroum it will get deleted because there are so many threads on it ( but no clear cut answers! )
Ive managed to talk my self into a re-map today but I then came hom to the internet and read a few (shite) threads on re-maps with storys of turbos blowing up and clutches being destroyed and started to wonder, is it the people that drive the cars to blame or is it really that dangerous to go past the manufactures parameters and give a 130bhp engine ~170bhp?
Im thinking its more the drivers that are driving their cars and using all that freed up power and torque ALL the time and driving with no mechanical sympathy at all, I drive my car with sympathy and do the usual no going past 2k for the first 10 mins, let it cool down after a long journey ect and post map Id probably do oil changes alot more frequently
come on...... Talk me into / out of it
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Warren G
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cluthes cant last with the torque! when remapped they can be put under massive stress along with other things
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richc
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Why do people let there engines 'cool' down after a journey or something? What does this do? All i can gather is that your engine gets hotter and your oil thins out in my eyes.
Clutch, yes stress. But i think how you drive em depends on there life expentancy. Dont sit on bite point on a hill in traffic etc. And pull off gently on the clutch and then boot it 
Just dont drive on full boost for like first 3 miles of driving at most in a modern diesel (fuel oily anyway) and drive it how you want.
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Ben G
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oil in the turbo richc
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Colin
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Car will be relaible but the car will no doubt be heavier on clutches, brakes & tyres etc Turbo might have a shorter lifespan also.
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Warren G
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let the oil drain out of the turbo and let it cool down slowly
what engine? they use the same in the vauxhalls
1.3's are just shite.
1.9's are quick, and remapped 
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Rich H
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I'm going to be having my van remapped soon by a guy who has done thousands of remaps - the forum I found him via is a Transit forum which he has remapped a good percentage of their vans for them, and none of them have had a problem, so I'm going to bite the bullet and go for it lol.
That's an upgrade of 75ps to 95ps and a gain of around 10% mpg per tank for £250 - sounds fair to me!
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mattk
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I dont boot it off the line cause its wank off the line anyway  when I say cool down I mean I leave it to tick for a min or two max, cant really remember the last time I went over 3k in it because there is no power up there anyway,
fuck it I might just book it in
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RS6
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your cars new enough should be fine
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Twiggy
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I think if it was a mild map then fine.... if your going from 130 - 170 i think there maybe issues
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mattk
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170 is slightly more than mild, there is one been done that is over 200bhp and 2 on there that are 195, most are 170 - 180, Id be more than happy with 170
although on did make 150, they tried to get more but couldnt 
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Bonney
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just get a mild map, nothing too daft and it will be fine.
You drive like a girl anyway 
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John
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My fabia gave a slight bit of slip when I first got my map, cured itself though.
130-170 isn't that much on the engine's in question, but yes it is the torque that kills the clutch not the power.
I've not heard of anybody thats damaged an engine from one.
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Colin
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Just get it done, if the clutch gives up replace it with an uprated one!! 
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Warren G
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what engine is it?
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mattk
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1.9JTD 130bhp 8 valve
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Kurt
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Matt 
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Warren G
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must be the same as the vx 1.9cdti 8v 120bhp
dont they do the 16v 150bhp version?
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Mattb
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The only problems i have seen with remapped diesels is particulate filters becomming clogged up (VAG btw) refused a couple of cars now for warrenty work of this nature due to remaps..
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mattk
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the 150 16v isnt availible in the punto, they put that in the Bravo, and the 120 8 valve go in the non sporting puntos
I didnt think about the DPF
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mk4_astra
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there was a big thread like this on pistonheads and although alot of people said remaps cause more stress on internals etc the general opinion from owners of remapped cars was that if your careful your car should be no less reliable.
just things like clutches, front tyres, brakes etc are going to wear down/need replacing quicker and servicing your car more often than you do now is probably best aswell
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John
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Do you have a dpf matt?
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mattk
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yeah I have a dpf
im not too bothered about tyres and brakes as they are consumables anyway, I know clutches are too but their expensive
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John
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If you're worried about the clutch just get a map that doesn't give you all the torque in one lump at the start.
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Mertin
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
The only problems i have seen with remapped diesels is particulate filters becomming clogged up (VAG btw) refused a couple of cars now for warrenty work of this nature due to remaps..
Is that a filter in the exhaust iirc?
Revo remaps for the vag 130 engine give 280 lb/ft of torque. Anymore than 300 and it'll be clutch replacement time.
If you go for a well known brand im sure the map will be designed so that it doesnt put the engine/clutch/turbo under major stress
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