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Hamish
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23rd Oct 08 at 17:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Basically for one of my college assignments i have to do a report on a piece of contaminated land and dicuss how it go there in the first place and how to remove the contaminates.

I could pluck one from the sky, but i think it would be better if i used a live site as it were

Where is the best place to get reports for contaminated sites that go into some level of detail?
Welsh Dan
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Is Pripyat/Chernobyl too obvious?
CorsAsh
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There is a site in Little Lever near Bolton, used to be a chemical works.

http://archive.thisislancashire.co.uk/2000/12/22/700798.html

Still leaks shit all over the road when it rains, despite a major cleanup effort a few years back. Is also right next to a school, could see if there's any info on it if you're interested?

[Edited on 23-10-2008 by CorsAsh]
Hamish
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well the thing is who would i actually go to to get a site report and specifics of how contaninated the land is?

I think that would be fairly impossibe to do well
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
There is a site in Little Lever near Bolton, used to be a chemical works.

http://archive.thisislancashire.co.uk/2000/12/22/700798.html

Still leaks shit all over the road when it rains, despite a major cleanup effort a few years back. Is also right next to a school, could see if there's any info on it if you're interested?

[Edited on 23-10-2008 by CorsAsh]

that sounds fully ace.

I was potentially thinking about a local County Council and see what sites they have
ed
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Direct your questions to your prof, that's what they're paid for.
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Without stating the obvious, these guys might be able to help:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/
Hamish
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only see them once a week ed . And at college treachers arent much help
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
Without stating the obvious, these guys might be able to help:
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/

good thinking deano, hadnt even thought of that
mattk
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I was working on a site last year that was contaminated land, all the underground services ie gas and water mains had to be tripple insulated, and no grass would EVER grow on there

also the only place in the world I have ever had bad hay fever, dont know if the land had any affect on that though
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Hamish contact a medium size Quantity Surveying Firm or Housing Developers and ask them if they have any bore hole reports of containement land you could have
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http://maps.environment-agency.gov.uk/wiyby/

That will give you the list of sites. Then you can have a search about to find more information on them.

Advanced data search > Waste > Historic landfill > Placename

[Edited on 23-10-2008 by Ian]
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Guessing we are talking about contaminated ground in an area where a developer wants to build and not chernobyl or similar?

Depending on the type of contamination, hazardous or non hazardous the remediation costs would vary greatly, this would be shown in the geotechnical report for the land.

Once you know this then you can decide which route to take. Remediation of contaminated ground can take several forms, right through from bioremediation to vapour barriers. The most common method I have come across is the removal from site and treatment offsite; usually where excavation takes place the contaminated material is excavated to a fixed depth below the level of the foundation and imported inert material is used for backfill.
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the site I was on was a Lovel site in Garston - Liverpool
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what is the college course you are doing?
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
only see them once a week ed . And at college treachers arent much help
Ah right, when we get stuck we can e-mail them and they usually say something that points us in the right direction. If we're lucky
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
only see them once a week ed . And at college treachers arent much help
Ah right, when we get stuck we can e-mail them and they usually say something that points us in the right direction. If we're lucky

yea i may have to do that. The link Ian gave me is very usefull as always. Cheers Ian

Matty im doing an HNC in Construction
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my town is contaminated with polish people if that counts.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
yea i may have to do that. The link Ian gave me is very usefull as always. Cheers Ian

Matty im doing an HNC in Construction


I'm currently dealing with a piece of land that is contaminated with 1950's rubbish...nice stuff....gearbox oils, batteries, acids etc etc.

TBH, my first point of call would be your LA environment dept, as I believe (given the likelyhood of good information flow between the LA and the EA ) their information will be more current. That's not belittling the site Ian posted, as that is a great resource too but the LA will have access to maps that wont be on the larger database (take my word for that)

Sounds like an interesting assignment that, it's such a complex area that in the real world you would 100% of the time employ a consultant.

I'm using this lot:-

http://www.sanctusltd.com/

Some useful info there, the most difficult thing in this sort of affair is getting the method statements and risk assessments in place to satisfy the CDM co-ordinator prior to any sort of physical excavation/examination of the waste.

Once you know what it is you can start to look at how to deal with it via waste acceptance criterias etc

I'm now rambling

Hamish
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Cheers Jules

Tbh the assignment isnt that interesting . This is only the last question that this is focusing on.

Soil mechanics is boring
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Dont deal with contiminated land personally at work, but i do know we get in EnviroCheck reports which give you all the historic maps of the area and the like, but costs a few bob. Not really useful, sorry!
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
the site I was on was a Lovel site in Garston - Liverpool


Where about was that? Under the bridge?
mattk
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Yeah Garson Under The Bridge
Jay
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
Yeah Garson Under The Bridge


Not surprised, proper shit hole.
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiesto
Dont deal with contiminated land personally at work, but i do know we get in EnviroCheck reports which give you all the historic maps of the area and the like, but costs a few bob. Not really useful, sorry!

gunna see what i can get for free

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