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little_duke
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29th Sep 08 at 23:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi All

Just wondering whats needed to be a driving instructor?

i.e

years experience
etc etc

Been considering it for a while now and 2 people i have taught to drive both passed with 2 minors 1st time

advice would be good,no doubt i'l get some stupid comments off people trying to keep their rep as the funny man.

John
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29th Sep 08 at 23:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

GOOGLE

even a search on here ffs

[Edited on 29-09-2008 by John]
chloe16v
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29th Sep 08 at 23:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think its at least 3-3.5 years driving
little_duke
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29th Sep 08 at 23:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

john i still fail to see why you're a prick to me?

i ask a simple question and get answers like that!

thanks cb thats more of an answer i was looking for
Colin
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Some places charge like thousands of pounds to put you through it.

Not sure on experience probably same as to sit in with someone, so over 21 with 3yrs or more experience.
little_duke
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cheers colin,just been considering it alot lately.wouldnt be looking at doing it until im 25 anyway.im currently 22 (23 in jan) with 3 years experience (will be 4 a day before my bday) so in theory when im 25 im hoping to still have a clean license and 6 years experience
Colin
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Its not a career id want, think you'd get sick of sitting in a car all day..........maybe not tho. I just dont like to mix business with pleasure!!

Keep in mind to make the 30k or whatever these places quote you need to work 70hr weeks, weekends etc
little_duke
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yeah i know what you mean,i enjoy driving alot and i had the chance to teach a girl i know how to drive.she passed 1st time with flying colours only getting 2 minors which made me happy.i would be prepared to put the effort in aslong it was getting results for people im teaching.i tried bus driving out which was fun (may even give it another go).but i didnt like the idea of a fixed term of a 2year contract with that.(i.e if i left before the 2 years i pay the whole course) where as working for them i pay it off in stages.another reason i didnt like that was it was messing with my social life.maybe when im 25 i will want abit more from life and think further with my career prospects.
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Its not a career id want, think you'd get sick of sitting in a car all day..........maybe not tho. I just dont like to mix business with pleasure!!

Keep in mind to make the 30k or whatever these places quote you need to work 70hr weeks, weekends etc


If you go on the AA website, if you fill out the amount of hours and the location you want to teach, it gives you a complete pay structure. Worked out about £34k *after* franchise costs etc with a new car every 6 months free of charge on 45 hours a week.

You have to be 21 + have held a driving license for 3.5 years. I am taking this career at the earliest possible opportunity.
MJFF88
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Here we go. 45 hours with 3 weeks holiday per year would set them back

Income

Hourly lesson price in (TN) = £23.00
Estimated weekly income from lessons = £1035.00
Estimated annual income from lessons = £50715.00
Outgoings

Weekly franchise fee = £196 inc VAT
Average pupil introduction charge paid per week is £15.57 inc VAT
(based on average of 27 introduced in a year based on £30 per pupil).
Average fuel costs per week = £65.22

Net weekly income before tax and N.I. = £758.21
Net annual income before tax and N.I. = £37152.13

£37152.13 = £29/£30k tax
Russ
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30th Sep 08 at 06:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£200 a week, plus the 3k or whatever starting fee.

it all looks good when its like that MJFF, but when you take out holiday/sick time/times you dont feel like working/times when you cant fill your slots etc...
Andy Stocker
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30th Sep 08 at 07:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Buy my course off of me
AndyKent
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quote:
Originally posted by MJFF88
Here we go. 45 hours with 3 weeks holiday per year would set them back

Income

Hourly lesson price in (TN) = £23.00
Estimated weekly income from lessons = £1035.00
Estimated annual income from lessons = £50715.00
Outgoings

Weekly franchise fee = £196 inc VAT
Average pupil introduction charge paid per week is £15.57 inc VAT
(based on average of 27 introduced in a year based on £30 per pupil).
Average fuel costs per week = £65.22

Net weekly income before tax and N.I. = £758.21
Net annual income before tax and N.I. = £37152.13

£37152.13 = £29/£30k tax



But the key word above is ESTIMATED.

How do people find out about you?
What if not enough people in your area want to learn to drive, or there are too many instructors for the demand?
little_duke
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30th Sep 08 at 09:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers for that mj
deano87
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quote:
Originally posted by aPk
But the key word above is ESTIMATED.

How do people find out about you?
What if not enough people in your area want to learn to drive, or there are too many instructors for the demand?

By being with the AA, you'll get people contact you via the AA. It isn't as bad as setting up on your own.

http://www.theaa.com/drivingschool/index.html

People will use that and who ever is in their area will get contacted.

Being a franchise is more guaranteed work, because people contact the brand, not the driver however you have more overheads.
MJFF88
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quote:
Originally posted by little_duke
cheers for that mj


Np and good luck if you do choose to do it.
johnhara1
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30th Sep 08 at 14:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My driving instructor has just quit doing it due to having to work all hours to make a half decent wage.

Petrol Prices hit him hard too.

I couldnt be a driving instructor. Im too impatient and have a bad temper with a short fuse. I would end up shouting at the learners as they destroyed my car.




[Edited on 30-09-2008 by johnhara1]
Ecosse Sport
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30th Sep 08 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How much do driving lessons cost these days?

My wife has been quoted £28 an hour, I think thats about the rate here in Aberdeen.

I suppose thats still not a lot of money for what must be a lot of boring work.
MJFF88
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30th Sep 08 at 16:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£18-£24

£28 is a high price to pay.
sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by Ecosse Sport
How much do driving lessons cost these days?

My wife has been quoted £28 an hour, I think thats about the rate here in Aberdeen.

I suppose thats still not a lot of money for what must be a lot of boring work.



£28 an hour

Mine were £12.00 for an hour and a quarter when I were a lad
AndyKent
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30th Sep 08 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just looked at those figures again.......

45 hours a week of paid lessons is going to VERY stressful - you'll never be out the car.

If you wanted to do it over 5 days that 9 PAID hours a day - you couldn't do it.

Even over 6 days thats 7.5 hours per day without travelling from one learner to another. Assuming just 15 minutes travelling and 4 learners per day thats another hour travelling, eating lunch while you go.

Personally, I don't think 30k is anywhere near enough!



[Edited on 30-09-2008 by aPk]
Matt L
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pretty sure chumbly warners wife/misses was/is one swear he posted pics a good year ago with a picture of his car with learner stuff on
Twiggy
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30th Sep 08 at 18:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have you seen hoow many adverts for "30k a year as a driving instructor?" personaly did consider but the market is saturated imo

[Edited on 30-09-2008 by Twiggy]

 
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