jr
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If its been posted already sorry, but this pretty much sums up the answer i reckon
listen to the engine note, IMO he doesn't lift, and therefore the result was probably correct, as he did gain an advantage, the only reason KR got infront, was he actually got out the corner well, whilst hamilton initially lifted before he skipped over the track
thoughts ?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ovii_wwwformula
[Edited on 08-09-2008 by jr]
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Butler
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Probably didnt lift with regards to the conditions, might have accelerated a little slower?
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chris_uk
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to me it seemed kimi braked a little too early, and i dont think hamilton was ready
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dont mclaren have proof that he lifted and that hamilton was going 6kmph slower?
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
might have accelerated a little slower?
exactly... engine doesn't seams to accelerate as qucik as it should of done, if he did floor it..
also, if you look, not sliptreaming/tow from kimi either 
even if he didn't take him at that corner, he would of had him on the next one for defo
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
If its been posted already sorry, but this pretty much sums up the answer i reckon
listen to the engine note, IMO he doesn't lift, and therefore the result was probably correct, as he did gain an advantage, the only reason KR got infront, was he actually got out the corner well, whilst hamilton initially lifted before he skipped over the track
thoughts ?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ovii_wwwformula
Sounds like he wasn't accelerating full bore after cutting... not revving to 19k or whatever it is...
You can also see on that vid why he has to cut the chicane anyway...
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Butler
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Only reason I said that is because if he did totally lift off, when he went back on the power he wouldnt have been able to accelerate as quick as the wheels would have just spun up.
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RCS
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The thing that angers me is the inconsistency of penalties by the FIA.
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Paul_J
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also...
I don't really see what Kimi did being fair, where he stayed off the track for the entire corner (not sure the name of it?) - ... that's run off area, not track. In theory that should be kitty litter ...
As people know, in the wet, the outside of corners are more grippy as rubber on the track is slippy when wet (hence the racing line is not the quickest line in the wet).
Kimi staying off the track for the whole bend starts to catch up hamilton as a result... etc
It's just bollocks, do they want to ruin the sport? for once we had some head to head close racing! If because of that they penalise people, it's only going to make people less likely to try to overtake etc.
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Butler
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it should all be rough of some sort if its not part of the track, thats where all these advantages come from.
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RCS
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That was at Pouhon Kimi took the run off.
You could argue all day about this 
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Bram
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He clearly gives Kimi the place back on track and then duely takes it back fair and square. It's as black and white as that! 
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RCS
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I think Hamilton should leave F1, think of all the fanbase he'd take with him. That would fuck Bernie right off!
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by RCS
That was at Pouhon Kimi took the run off.
You could argue all day about this
You shouldn't need to argue about it...
Rules say, you gain a place from cutting, you have to give it back.
Hamilton, made a move, was forced off, gained a place... slowed down (didn't accelerate as hard) let kimi pass (kimi's car was at 1 point completely infront), then passed him again.
I don't see the argument. Hamilton was robbed of the win for making entertaining television.
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RCS
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I don't see the argument either, but tell a Ferrari fan that.
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by RCS
I don't see the argument either, but tell a Ferrari fan that.
i've read alot of comments from ferrari support's that dont aggree with it..
main people who disagree are anti-hamilton people
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Graham88
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That video proves my points from the thread in off day 
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Robbo
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just seen it for the first time
lewis gets position unfairly
gives it straight back... so where does 25s come from  Nonsense and itll get rescinded on appeal!
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Adam-D
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ferrari are paying fia.
either that or they dont want a brit to win it, or a black man,
either way its wrong and lewis should have his win reinstated he won it thats that.
christ if the same rules were applied to touring cars every driver would be disqualified
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
christ if the same rules were applied to touring cars every driver would be disqualified
I saw that the other day, they just seem to push each other off the track
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Adam-D
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also i hope he wins it. i really really do.
fia are driveing ppl away from the sport.
cos not only is lewis figting to win against other drivers, he is fighting against the fia.
i hope he wins it.
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Rick Draper
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-Deither that or they dont want a black man to win it
History proves motorsport is a white mans sport. Sounds fucking terrible but look back at it.
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antscorsa
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doesnt kimi go wide and stay wide to gain an advantage in to a corner when he passed hamilton tho!
he stayed on the run off as much as he possibly could to gain an advatnage!
one set of rules for ferrari compared to the others
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theres no doubt Hamilton gained an advantage but thats not the point precedent says that if you gain a place you must give it back which he clearly did.
BEst laugh I had yesterday was describing the FIA as ferrari international assistance. So apt its funny!
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