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Mike

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25th Aug 08 at 23:07

people give you abuse for no apparent reason

I'd been out for a drive earlier on and on my way back I was coming off the M6 onto the M58 and as I went onto the M58 slip road, a Vectra that I'd overtook just before leaving the M6 started to overtake me and as I looked round the couple in it were giving me the wanker sign and all the rest of it

I hadn't done anything wrong unless they're offended by heel & toe gear changes

then they hooned off down the motorway with me wondering wtf was going on

Tbh tho, they looked like a pair of chavs driving a Vectra with Lexus lights, you can't help but feel sorry for em really

IvIarkgraham

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25th Aug 08 at 23:08

its the face

John

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25th Aug 08 at 23:09

If somebody drove past me on the motorway doing heel toe gear changes i'd probably think what a wanker too.

Mike

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25th Aug 08 at 23:10

quote:
Originally posted by John
If somebody drove past me on the motorway doing heel toe gear changes i'd probably think what a wanker too.

I wasn't on the motorway, I was coming upto a roundabout between the 2 slip roads

sand-eel

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Registered: 15th Mar 07
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25th Aug 08 at 23:11

this is the time when a c20let corsa is needed, show them who's boss.........also throw a petrol bomb through there window, there might still be a sort of wanker sign still there but it would most likely be them wafting out the flames

sand-eel

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25th Aug 08 at 23:12

oooh i heel and toe it all the time it's just comes natural now.

Mike

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25th Aug 08 at 23:15

I do it that much, it feels strange when I don't

Scotty C

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25th Aug 08 at 23:18

WTF is heel & toe changes?

sand-eel

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25th Aug 08 at 23:19

aye i don't like the 'unsmoothness' of changing down with out doing it.....

IvIarkgraham

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25th Aug 08 at 23:19

i dont know what heel toe changes are either

sand-eel

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25th Aug 08 at 23:20

quote:
Originally posted by Monster
WTF is heel & toe changes?

it's when you use your toes on the brakes and use your heel to blip the throttle so it gives a smoother gear change whilst slowing down

sand-eel

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25th Aug 08 at 23:21

well it's really the bit behind your toes really but still the heel for the throttle, but it's still called heel and "toe"

[Edited on 25-08-2008 by sand-eel]

Mike

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25th Aug 08 at 23:22

quote:
Originally posted by Monster
WTF is heel & toe changes?

When you're down changing you blip the throttle with your heel, whilst braking with your toes, although it's more one side of my foot on the brake, the other side on the throttle, my heels to far down to get the accelerator

John

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25th Aug 08 at 23:25

Unless you were making swift progress round the roundabout why were you doing heel toe changes anyway?

Mike

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25th Aug 08 at 23:28

quote:
Originally posted by John
Unless you were making swift progress round the roundabout why were you doing heel toe changes anyway?

quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
I do it that much, it feels strange when I don't

Just a habit really, it's smoother than if you don't

sand-eel

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25th Aug 08 at 23:35

i would say it stabilises the car on braking aswell, instead of the sudden deceleration of changing down without doing it

Butler

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26th Aug 08 at 00:03

I dont heel toe on the road, probably quite dangerous, I match the engine revs just dont leave half my foot over the brake.

Russ

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26th Aug 08 at 06:16

surely thats double declutching not heal and toe gear changes.

eddiewhiteley

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26th Aug 08 at 06:23

i just drive normally, all this heel/toe nonsense sounds a bit complicated to me

Mussolini

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26th Aug 08 at 06:25

iv not even seen you on the road and im already thinking wanker

Russ

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26th Aug 08 at 07:03

quote:
Originally posted by Mussolini
iv not even seen you on the road and im already thinking wanker

Adam-D

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26th Aug 08 at 07:14

i use the braking effect of changing down a gear to slow me aswell as the brakes.

dont think ive ever needed heel toe

sand-eel

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26th Aug 08 at 10:22

quote:
Originally posted by Russ
surely thats double declutching not heal and toe gear changes.

double declutching is only used on old cars with no syncromesh.
it's when you have to put clutch in, put in neutral, release clutch, put in clutch, rev to match gear speed, put in next gear down.......now that would be quite annoying to do all the time

Marc

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26th Aug 08 at 10:52

I went round a corner last week, a car was was on the other side of the road also going round the corner. the dozey cow obviously can't turn a car properly and came on to my side whilst going round and shoulted through her window like I'd pulled out on her! Bearing in mind it was her that was turning onto the main road!

Jules

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Registered: 26th Nov 04
Location: Ipswich, Suffolk Status: Happy
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26th Aug 08 at 11:05

Why heel and toe on public roads in everyday driving?

Too lazy to do it the correct and recognised way?

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