Rob H
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Due to the missus having to move away because of work commitments, and me wanting to start saving towards a deposit on a house(hence still living at home), it's looking like my annual mileage is going to shoot up to somewhere in the 25k region. Half will be done on the daily commute in rush hour, and the other half will be done going down to see her every other weekend.
I'm deciding at the moment whether a second car would be a good idea, mainly due to the savings in fuel that can be made on the commute to work if I owned something like a 1.0 corsa.
Insurance would only be marginally more expensive that increasing the mileage of the policy on the astra to 25k, but with that and taxing the car for a year, plus an MOT i'd be about £200 down, which could be made up by the savings i'd make in fuel.
The other savings would be in other wear and tear items (brakes, tyres etc) where the corsa would be dirt cheap compared to the astra.
My only issues are the reliability of the corsa (astra is still under warranty for the next 2 years), and whether the second car would actually save me money in the long run?
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Colin
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1L corsa will drive you nuts doing 25k a year!! Get a VAG 1.9 tdi, it will pack some punch to keep you from going insane & return 40-50mpg whatever your driving style!!
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Colin
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Or sell the Astra & get a nice modern Derv. A4 2L 170bhp Sline or something!!
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Rob H
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Was aiming to keep the costs down, hence a low-ish mileage corsa can be obtained for well under £1k, will still get 50mpg, and parts are cheap and abundent should anything go wrong with it.
The corsa would only be for commuting to work (50 mile round trip a day, but all in traffic anyway so would find it hard to stretch even the corsas legs!).
I've considered swapping the astra for Derv, but I'd loose a packet on what I paid for it new. I also don't like how bigger engined Dervs in general drive - I've driven the 140 golfs at work a number of times and was pretty appaled at how intermittent the power delivery was. Also hated the fact to get the thing to move you had to nail it in first to get it going anywhere.
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Colin
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I just think doing that many miles in a wee pokey 1L would be shit at the best of times!
To me my car fits my lifestyle...not the other way around!
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Rob H
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Yeah I know what you mean, but doing the commute in a 1.0 would mean I use the astra on long journeys, and at times when i can actually use it for the car it is.
I'd rather have the car I want sat at home waiting to be used for leisure and run a cheap second car, than use a car i'm not really that fussed about all the while. I looked at Astra Sport hatches as it's not too dissimilar for the VXR, but if I had one i'd then want the Re-map, then i'd want to change the wheels, kit, interior etc etc... i'd end up spending a fortune trying to make it a diesel VXR!  .
[Edited on 10-08-2008 by Rob H]
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Colin
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Sounds like you made your mind up then. I wouldnt do it on the basis that id be in a shit car every day clocking up the miles with a nice car tucked away at home not being used much rapidly losing value & that would really bug me!
[Edited on 10-08-2008 by Colin]
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Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Sounds like you made your mind up then. I wouldnt do it on the basis that id be in a shit car every day clocking up the miles with a nice car tucked away at home not being used much rapidly losing value & that would really bug me!
I know what you mean, but then I'd still be doing 12k a year in the astra, so it's not like I wouldn't get my use out of it! The old man is on your side and thinks I should just run the astra and be done with it - i'm just trying to figure out if i'd actually make any savings by running 2 cars  .
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dannymccann
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I would say, dont get a 1.0 corsa, but get something with a diesel. Like Colin said a VAG 1.9 unit, another Astra like my 2.0DTi, maybe even a 106 etc if you really want to go small.
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Rob H
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Originally posted by dannymccann
I would say, dont get a 1.0 corsa, but get something with a diesel. Like Colin said a VAG 1.9 unit, another Astra like my 2.0DTi, maybe even a 106 etc if you really want to go small.
Look at the MPG figures though - My dad used to have a Vec 2.0TDi and he rarely got over 45mpg, the 1.9 VAG units, along with the Pug 306 TDi's get roughly the same. Trouble is they're all relatively old units now, and without spending a minimum of a couple of grand on a HDi engined car, i'm actually better off with a 1.0 - the missus' Corsa C 1.0 gets an easy 50mpg. There's also the extra cost of diesel to factor in - it's about 10% more than petrol, so you effectively know that of the MPG figures .
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Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Sounds like you made your mind up then. I wouldnt do it on the basis that id be in a shit car every day clocking up the miles with a nice car tucked away at home not being used much rapidly losing value & that would really bug me!
[Edited on 10-08-2008 by Colin]
This is why I dismissed the second car idea and decided to just downgrade for 12 months, seemed silly having an S3 sat on the drive to do 20 miles a week while i'd be doing 350 miles in a cheap low spec car.
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mattk
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get a small 1.9 TD Clio or summat of the like, even a 1.5 TD Corsa
fuck the 1.0l off it will drive you insane, especially as a work hack
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Ian W
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I had a 1.2 3 cyl Polo the other week as a courtesy car, couldn't hack having a car that slow
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deano87
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My 12v Corsa has never let me down in over 25k miles. I get 50mpg consistently. It costs just under £40 to fill up (I never let it run down to the red).
If you're that set on saving money, you'll have to compromise with speed imho.
Either that, as suggested, get rid of the VXR and buy an all rounder.
P.S. A 25 mile 1 way commute in a 12v is nothing. If the figures add up in terms of savings, this is your best option imho.
[Edited on 11-08-2008 by deano87]
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dannymccann
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob H
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Originally posted by dannymccann
I would say, dont get a 1.0 corsa, but get something with a diesel. Like Colin said a VAG 1.9 unit, another Astra like my 2.0DTi, maybe even a 106 etc if you really want to go small.
Look at the MPG figures though - My dad used to have a Vec 2.0TDi and he rarely got over 45mpg, the 1.9 VAG units, along with the Pug 306 TDi's get roughly the same. Trouble is they're all relatively old units now, and without spending a minimum of a couple of grand on a HDi engined car, i'm actually better off with a 1.0 - the missus' Corsa C 1.0 gets an easy 50mpg. There's also the extra cost of diesel to factor in - it's about 10% more than petrol, so you effectively know that of the MPG figures .
Must of been something wrong with the Vec then, I have that 2.0DTi lump in my astra and it returns at least 55mpg on long journeys even sticking it some. Saying that 2.0 probly isnt best if you are stuck in traffic 
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stubbsy05
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I do 20-25K a year and have a VW Vento 1.9 TDI. (Golf Mk3 TDI with a boot)
Now this is rusting in places. But it only had 1 owner from new, 126k on clock and FSH and set me back a whole £300! Its now on 151k after a year of use and has never missed a beat.
IF you have around 3-4k I'd suggest a Clio 1.5 DCi 80 Dynamique. £35 a year tax and superb MPG. Comes with sporty seats, alloys etc.
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pow
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I aveage 51.3MPG in my 1.9 TDi
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M2RTY
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i use a 1.0 corsa C to go to work and back, 50-60 miles a day, 48MPG average I worked out, paid £650 for it and I love it
Keep BMW convertible for weekend, does 30MPG and I hate driving it to work in the rain/traffic etc, keep this for weekend/night use only
plus I can take the corsa anywhere, gets no attention, I ram it through fields and use it as a workhorse to chuck bricks and paint etc in the boot
works out 20 a week cheaper to run the corsa then the BMW just for work, plus a few other trips, so say £100 per month I save to run the corsa
100 x12 = £1200 a year
corsa costs me £150 to insure, £110 to tax, and £50 to MOT
plus I save 15k or so worth of miles/wear on the BMW
I was looking at a 1.9 golf, but @ 50MPG and the price of diesel over petrol, it would work out more expensive
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MarkM
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quote:
Originally posted by M2RTY
i use a 1.0 corsa C to go to work and back, 50-60 miles a day, 48MPG average I worked out, paid £650 for it and I love it
Keep BMW convertible for weekend, does 30MPG and I hate driving it to work in the rain/traffic etc, keep this for weekend/night use only
plus I can take the corsa anywhere, gets no attention, I ram it through fields and use it as a workhorse to chuck bricks and paint etc in the boot
works out 20 a week cheaper to run the corsa then the BMW just for work, plus a few other trips, so say £100 per month I save to run the corsa
100 x12 = £1200 a year
corsa costs me £150 to insure, £110 to tax, and £50 to MOT
plus I save 15k or so worth of miles/wear on the BMW
I was looking at a 1.9 golf, but @ 50MPG and the price of diesel over petrol, it would work out more expensive
Good breakdown 
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pow
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I've been concidering a 1.0 runaround...
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deano87
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You all knows it
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Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by M2RTY
i use a 1.0 corsa C to go to work and back, 50-60 miles a day, 48MPG average I worked out, paid £650 for it and I love it
Keep BMW convertible for weekend, does 30MPG and I hate driving it to work in the rain/traffic etc, keep this for weekend/night use only
plus I can take the corsa anywhere, gets no attention, I ram it through fields and use it as a workhorse to chuck bricks and paint etc in the boot
works out 20 a week cheaper to run the corsa then the BMW just for work, plus a few other trips, so say £100 per month I save to run the corsa
100 x12 = £1200 a year
corsa costs me £150 to insure, £110 to tax, and £50 to MOT
plus I save 15k or so worth of miles/wear on the BMW
I was looking at a 1.9 golf, but @ 50MPG and the price of diesel over petrol, it would work out more expensive
I think i'm in the same boat as you. I can't say I enjoy driving through Birmingham town centre everyday with some of the "interesting" driving I get to encounter.
I regularly drive the missus' 1.0, so it's not like its a massive shock changing between the two cars - I actually don't mind driving it at all .
Marv - find me a £650 corsa C 1.0! . How many miles has it done out of curiosity? Just wondering how much effect high mileage has on the economy?
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M2RTY
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92k, full history and MOTs, engine is spotless
pics in some thread I starterd about a month ago
came with full service and MOt and lady taxed it for 6 months
proper bog standard spec, but less to go wrong and less weight to carry!
after a CD player for it at the moment, already spent £6 on a new wiper blade for the back grrrrr lol
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M2RTY
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=442704
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MJ
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im in the same boat i have 2 weeks to find a car before adrian flux cancel my insurance as i have just sold my car and they only freeze the policy for 2 weeks. im looking at a run arround for work atm as the car park is not great so sometimes have to park on the road. looking for something under 1k, reliable and lower than 1.5ltrs for tax reasons but i dont know what to buy. my evening/ weekend car is likely to be an dc2 itr or a gt4 not decided yet lol
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