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dannymccann
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24th Jul 08 at 07:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7522334.stm

Looks like Im going to have to start buying music then

edit - and change to a better ISP. Seriously whats the point in offering 24mb (Virgin) when you know people are only going to use it to download films and music faster and faster

[Edited on 24-07-2008 by dannymccann]
AndyKent
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24th Jul 08 at 07:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Legal downloads perhaps?

I haven't downloaded for ages as I don't spend enough time on the net, but this would be enough to put me off - last thing I want is a letter to fall through the door and my parents realising
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Im pretty sure they will be only able to tell your downloading through torrent sites etc, basicly any sites ran through the isp.

If you use a file sharing program like Limewire then I dont think they can see as it is a computer application and it is illegal for them to access your computer, they can only see what sites youve been going on etc..could be wrong though
dannymccann
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Worth the risk though FruitBooter.....im not sure.
cunningham
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not going to stop me think how much money the net providers are going to lose

''fuck you want to stop me downloading just phone up and cancel''
radicalry00
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AOL haven't signed up .
Dan Lewis
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Im pretty sure they will be only able to tell your downloading through torrent sites etc, basicly any sites ran through the isp.

If you use a file sharing program like Limewire then I dont think they can see as it is a computer application and it is illegal for them to access your computer, they can only see what sites youve been going on etc..could be wrong though


torrents and limewire is the same. and can be tracked the same way.

The best way at the moment to download vast stuff is an 20Connection SSL Newsgroup
FruitBooTeR
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan Lewis
quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Im pretty sure they will be only able to tell your downloading through torrent sites etc, basicly any sites ran through the isp.

If you use a file sharing program like Limewire then I dont think they can see as it is a computer application and it is illegal for them to access your computer, they can only see what sites youve been going on etc..could be wrong though


torrents and limewire is the same. and can be tracked the same way.

The best way at the moment to download vast stuff is an 20Connection SSL Newsgroup


Yes it is the same 'peer to peer sharing' but what im saying is using an app like Limewire should prevent them looking at what your doing as they cannont breech the privacy act and access your computer.
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they dont need to breach your computer. Limewire your going to pulling data from different IP's when downloading so it will be noticable
Dom
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Yup the only secure way at the moment is to use an SSL Newsgroup provider or SSL encypted torrents/p2p (not sure if they exist yet).
Could also try and use the Tor Project stuff, but it's likely to be slow as shite.
Jules
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24th Jul 08 at 09:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Been using Newsgroups for ages
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TBH I really couldnt be arsed, plenty more ISPs out there should yours get arsey.
Cosmo
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Oh but someone feel free to start a thread with info on how to use newsgroups
johnhara1
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Yes it is the same 'peer to peer sharing' but what im saying is using an app like Limewire should prevent them looking at what your doing as they cannont breech the privacy act and access your computer.


If it's in your "shared folder" on utorrent or Limewire (or whatever program) then anyone can view what your uploading.

If your suspected of uploading copyrighted material, your IP address is noted and your ISP contacted to request your contact details.

FruitBooTeR
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Yeh thats why you dont share any files.
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Surely you can't get told off simply for using limewire or torrents? What about things you're downloading legally on it? Bits of shareware? Music people have created themselves, etc, etc.
Jules
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Oh but someone feel free to start a thread with info on how to use newsgroups


Copy n Paste from a u2u I sent to someone off here who asked for info:

You can use Newshosting for my provider ($15/month or 7.50 in real money!)
It DL's all through a program called: Newsbin Pro (should be able to DL a evaluation version somewhere then DL a crack full version through it! )
And you can use www.newzbin.com or www.merlins-portal.net for .nzb files (which you load into Newsbin Pro)
There is also www.newzxxx.com if you're after that kind of thing!

Merlins Portal is free - just register
Newzbin you have to buy credit but it's pence/week and you get access to newzxxx with that aswell.


I'm sure you can work the rest out for yourselves - it's quite simple

[Edited on 24-07-2008 by Jules]
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
Yeh thats why you dont share any files.


an ex of mine worked for an ISP and they could trace it by looking at users who are either downloading masses of data (would be followed up) or uploading more than they download (ie sharing data)
John
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ISP's ca inspect every packet you send and receive, they know exactly what you're downloading if they want to, nothing to do with breaching anything by looking on your computer.
Russ
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i download fuck loads through private sites, we'll see if i get a letter, if i do, i'll ring up and cancel. there will be a clever ISP who will advertise as "we dont watch what your doing" and get loads of business because of it
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Originally posted by radicalry00
AOL haven't signed up .


ermmm aol havent as the carphone warehouse own them now!!!! And they have signed up.
Aaron
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Kingston Communications haven't signed up .
dannymccann
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24th Jul 08 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But Kingston are only availble in Hull, and who would want to live there?
Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by dannymccann
But Kingston are only availble in Hull, and who would want to live there?


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"will see hundreds of thousands of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music"

until I see a successful prosecution for this then I may think about it, not that i download much anyway

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