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5th Jul 08 at 18:02

right, after this wont post anymore about planes

just found this vid, and tbh dont expect anyone to find it too intresting, but hey.........

TSR-2 - 20 years ahead of its time, only for the gov to cancel it, and then, destroy everything to do with it , whitin days/weeks of deciding to buy the american built F111

to give you an idea, this had alot of sytems the tornado had when it was launched, some 20 years later

UK could have had the most advanced aircraft in the world, and stopped because of cost

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/951799/the_raf_tsr_2/

[Edited on 05-07-2008 by jr]

Bonney

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5th Jul 08 at 18:05

Imagine if it was built, where we would be now

Aaron

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5th Jul 08 at 18:05

Geek day

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5th Jul 08 at 18:07

if you think this is geek like, wait till i get onto the trim options avalibe in an rs1600i

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5th Jul 08 at 18:07

quote:
Originally posted by Bonney66
Imagine if it was built, where we would be now

if it went into service, along way ahead of where we are now

Aaron

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5th Jul 08 at 18:08

quote:
Originally posted by jr
if you think this is geek like, wait till i get onto the trim options avalibe in an rs1600i

Bonney

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5th Jul 08 at 18:15

Typical of this countrys government, Never see the future benefits, just what is happening at the moment and in the past.

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5th Jul 08 at 18:16

Great shame

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5th Jul 08 at 18:20

whats worse, is the cheap option of the f111 actully cost more that the projected figures for the tsr2

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5th Jul 08 at 18:44

Its like what Clarkson says when he drives the Noble - this country has the potential and the talent to build great things but we just dont (noble not included obv)

Nick-S

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5th Jul 08 at 18:59

when has the raf ever had f111s

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5th Jul 08 at 19:08

It's amazing how we used to own 3/4 of the world, our citizens and armies fighting and dying for it, only for a bunch of guys in suits to decide it's not politically correct to have an empire and just give everything back. Then they hold us back from ever increasing our power by halting programs like the TSR-2.

Now the biggest superpower is one of our own little offshoots. I think a major reason that we dislike America so much (despite its leader) is that they are who we want to be in terms of world leadership, whilst we drown under a sea of bureaucracy. It truly is a mad world.

I was reading one of Clarkson's books recently, he said that we invented Scramjet technology, did successful runs and then aborted the projects as it was unfeasible as a mode of transport, but that didn't stop the Americans claiming they did it first

[Edited on 05-07-2008 by CorsAsh]

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5th Jul 08 at 19:29

Stuff like this fascinates me, there's so much we've half done and given up on which has then been managed by other people a long time after.

If we'd kept the funding in a lot of them, we'd be a lot better off for it now.

There was a lot of utter shit that we tried too though

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5th Jul 08 at 19:41

The Virgin Pendolino being another example.

We invented tilting trains, but sold the technology to Italy as it was too expensive.

Then we went and bought it back off them

Fucking stupid.

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5th Jul 08 at 19:51

Glad it was scrapped, way too much of our tax money is wasted on defence!!

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5th Jul 08 at 19:55

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Glad it was scrapped, way too much of our tax money is wasted on running around after America fighting the War on Oil!!

Nick-S

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5th Jul 08 at 20:06

but still, when have the raf ever had f111s

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5th Jul 08 at 20:20

They didn't, but they were going to after cancelling the TSR2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111#United_Kingdom

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5th Jul 08 at 20:51

quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
when has the raf ever had f111s

that was chosen over the tsr2, which was then dropped in favour of the phantoms and the blackburn bucaneer (sp)

2 planes to do the job the tsr2 could have done

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5th Jul 08 at 20:52

or just read what robin put

which i didnt

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5th Jul 08 at 20:56

but. at what point in history was it needed.

would be no good today, and tornado's are (debatable i know)

[Edited on 05-07-2008 by Russ]

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5th Jul 08 at 21:11

it would have done the job of the tonado, but been avalible 20 years before

Russ

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5th Jul 08 at 21:17

as versatile though, in a fighter and bomber role? can't really see it myself.

[Edited on 05-07-2008 by Russ]

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5th Jul 08 at 21:20

proberly more so, even though it was speeced as non armed iirc, as a all weather bomber, who knows what development would have done/created

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5th Jul 08 at 21:27

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Glad it was scrapped, way too much of our tax money is wasted on defence!!

yes, instead spend twice as much on an american design, which was shit, and still never make it, and then revert back to 2 seperate designs to do the job of 1 aircraft

this would have been a massive step forwards for the UK aircraft industry, but instead was proberly the begining of the end

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