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nova_gteuk
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
who gives a fuck about carbon dioxide

there are 6 billion living human beings giving out carbon dioxide 24/7

global warming is a conspiracy



i dont give a fuck about it..even if global warmings true ill be long dead when anything happens

My point was if the goverment care so much about carbon emmisons why tax people who run on 100% veg oil but not charge the people who drive electric cars which depend on fossil fuels to charge them.
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I wasnt hinting you personally was bothered

I agree though, runing a Derv car on used veggie oil is far more eco friendly than a leccy car

the government are tossers, I dont think they have an ounce of sense between them
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
the government are tossers, I dont think they have an ounce of sense between them
Truer words have never been said


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so whats the general consensus here with cars that will cope with 100% veggie mix.

306 diesel...............................
Superlite Ltd.
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Thanks ed

Looking into it, your right, a few cars have some sort of fuel heating system. Infact it was an optional extra on nova, cavalier etc... for cold climates

bonus if you want to run veg
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quote:
Originally posted by ianic SRi
so whats the general consensus here with cars that will cope with 100% veggie mix.

306 diesel...............................


I wanna know that as well. I'm not bothered about investing £100 in a veggie oil heater. Would the 106 1.5D (S2) with a Lucas pump run on 100% veggie with a heater before the pump? 1.5TD corsa?
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
I wanna know that as well. I'm not bothered about investing £100 in a veggie oil heater. Would the 106 1.5D (S2) with a Lucas pump run on 100% veggie with a heater before the pump? 1.5TD corsa?


I've read the lucas pumps can't take the veg oil??? Thankfully my 1.5TD corsa does indeed have a bosch pump
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I think it can't take the THINK veggie oil. Hence the heater. TBH I think i'd invest £60 in an ebay one for a Bosch Pump anyway
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http://www.vow2.co.uk



[Edited on 16-06-2008 by Superlite Ltd.]
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
http://www.vow2.co.uk



[Edited on 16-06-2008 by Superlite Ltd.]


Good work. NOw can you tell me which one would benefit my Vento tdi (AHU)
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Small one i think

Wire up a gauge too so you can see the fuel temp. I'll do this as soon as i get my hands on a TDI ibiza
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Small one i think

Wire up a gauge too so you can see the fuel temp. I'll do this as soon as i get my hands on a TDI ibiza


Let me know how you get on!
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Been sat here with a calculator...

To drive from here to the midlands in...
petrol ibiza £11.20
diesel ibiza £8.80
veg oil ibiza £5.60



[Edited on 16-06-2008 by Superlite Ltd.]
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Had a look in Lidls and Aldi the other day and they were both 59p a litre
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Had a look in Lidls and Aldi the other day and they were both 59p a litre


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I get waste cooking oil free

Also Government have scrapped the duty paid on the first 2500litres of production per annum.

As such:

2500 litres = 547.6 UK Gallons
40ish MPG gives 21903miles of "TAX" free fuel.

If you can get waste oil free as I can, buy distilling/processing equipment for ca £2000; you cold make your money back in the first 1700litres; so 1 year and you're proffiting!

Oh, there is methanol to buy, but thats a very low proportion
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OK dumb it down for us.

I am going out to use veggie in a car.

Can I buy a 1.5D 106 with a Lucas fuel pump

Install one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_Car-Parts-Accessories__VOW2C-Veg-oil-Bio-diesel-Fuel-Heater-Heat-Exchanger_W0QQitemZ170227700844QQadnZCarQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ4257QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170227700844&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Fill up with 90%-100% filtered, used veggie oil or off the shelf veggie oil?

Without it going bang?

[Edited on 16-06-2008 by pow]
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
OK dumb it down for us.

I am going out to use veggie in a car.

Can I buy a 1.5D 106 with a Lucas fuel pump

Install one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_Car-Parts-Accessories__VOW2C-Veg-oil-Bio-diesel-Fuel-Heater-Heat-Exchanger_W0QQitemZ170227700844QQadnZCarQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ4257QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item170227700844&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Fill up with 90%-100% filtered, used veggie oil or off the shelf veggie oil?

Without it going bang?

[Edited on 16-06-2008 by pow]




used or new

im going to use new as its not full of water and acid
pow
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Ed, are you serious? It will go through a Lucas fuel pump? The ones that "don't like veg".?
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"This type of conversion does have a down side. Cold starts are a little harder and additional stress is placed on the pump. This could shorten the life of the pump. No Bosh pumps have failed but 4 Lucas pumps have failed in the last 2 years"

Lucas arn't has hardy as bosch. Its the thickness of veg oil thats the issue. My old man mixes 45l veg oil with 5l parafin to thin it

heating it thins it out too
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Would running a 90/10 mix help?
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yes
nova_gteuk
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Just wait till the winter veg oil goes solid in cold weather
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It turns to gel rather than going solid. Mineral diesel can do it too, as can jet fuel in aircraft.
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It does go solid if cold enough and it blocks the injectors etc.


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