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Matt L
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13th May 08 at 08:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

a dump valve? i know they sound chav etc but heard a tdi leon with one on last night and it sounded really nice .

tbf i didnt realise you could get them for diesel engines but looks like you can so tempted to go and get a price on one.
Planty02
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13th May 08 at 08:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

do it matt
Matt L
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13th May 08 at 08:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ian get outside and finish your wheels i can see a visit to psi this weekend tbh
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There was a TDI golf in Aber with one and it sounded rubbish?
Minty_Fresh
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13th May 08 at 08:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

doesnt matter if there petrol or diesel if they have a turbo you can have one..

i think there shite!!

had one on my rs turbo (efi) and it chatterd like fuck, sounded way better than a dumpvalve but once i had loads of chavs come up to me n say that needs a dumpvalve mate, and walked off making dumpvalve noises..
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13th May 08 at 08:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its a personal choice in the end, if you like it then get it.
Tommy L
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13th May 08 at 08:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've been thinking about this matt

But then chav springs to mind
Matt L
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13th May 08 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it does but this one didnt sound chav it made a really nice sound .
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13th May 08 at 08:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you can obviously get different brands which make different sounds..

imo the standard wastegate makes the best noise!
Planty02
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13th May 08 at 08:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Matt L
ian get outside and finish your wheels


GTF, Jeremy Kyle's on
Matt L
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13th May 08 at 09:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your just getting gayer and gayer

[Edited on 13-05-2008 by Matt L]
Fro
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13th May 08 at 09:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I put an induction kit on mine and it spools up loud and then makes the dump sound when you let off but sounds more like darth vader Think the principle will be the same with your engine as i believe they recirc like mine does?
Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle
I put an induction kit on mine and it spools up loud and then makes the dump sound when you let off but sounds more like darth vader Think the principle will be the same with your engine as i believe they recirc like mine does?


Sounds like what mine does.

I've got a Forge Split R so you can have a sound if you like as well as it being a Recirc.
Matt L
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13th May 08 at 11:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how much you think id be looking at? (fitted)
ed
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13th May 08 at 11:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You don't need a dump valve on a TDi. It's a fuck load of effort for no gain and you are just bolting on a bit of over complicated crap.
Planty02
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13th May 08 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What purpose does a dump valve actually serve?
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13th May 08 at 11:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

On a petrol engine you have a throttle body which opens and closes to allow air to flow through. Your turbo will compress the air into the inlet manifold but when you lift off the throttle closes and there will be air stuck in between the turbo compressor wheel and the closed throttle. The air will go backwards and stall the turbo, or make the turbo run backwards. Thats where the dump vlave comes in. As the pressure behind the throttle in the inlet manifold drops the dump valve is opened by a vacuum pipe which dumps the trapped air to the atmosphere or recirculates it back into the intake side of the turbo in some cases.

On a turbo diesel engine you don't have a throttle so air cannot be trapped. Therefore you can't use a dump valve without some form of electronic actuation or in some cases they are attached to the brake servo for some reason. But as you have no where to trap the air there is absolutely no point in having one unless you like the sound or something.
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13th May 08 at 11:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ahhhh thanks ed Makes alot of sense now
jr
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13th May 08 at 14:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by ed
On a petrol engine you have a throttle body which opens and closes to allow air to flow through. Your turbo will compress the air into the inlet manifold but when you lift off the throttle closes and there will be air stuck in between the turbo compressor wheel and the closed throttle. The air will go backwards and stall the turbo, or make the turbo run backwards. Thats where the dump vlave comes in. As the pressure behind the throttle in the inlet manifold drops the dump valve is opened by a vacuum pipe which dumps the trapped air to the atmosphere or recirculates it back into the intake side of the turbo in some cases.



spot on, that turbo noise is what is also gets called "wastegate chatter" which is wrong (for others not ed)

[Edited on 13-05-2008 by jr]
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My mate has a very nice one on his MR2, sounds the nuts tbh

 
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