stan_the_man
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/7302460.stm
I know two of these lads.
Weve all driven stupidly at times, but got away with it.
Makes ya think.......
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JonnyJ
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Feel for the familes who lost ones but:
"My view would be to restrict the speed when they first pass their test and to make P plates automatic for two years and also maybe limit the size of the engine of the cars they drive."
When will people learn this isnt the way to stop young people causing accidents. A 1.0 12v corsa can still reach 90 which could cause a fatal crash. It's not the size of the engine or the power a car has its the attitude of the person driving.
[Edited on 18-03-2008 by JonnyJ]
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Steve
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jail means fuck all these days
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stan_the_man
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
When will people learn this isnt the way to stop young people causing accidents. A 1.0 12v corsa can still reach 90 which could cause a fatal crash. It's not the size of the engine or the power a car has its the attitude of the person driving.
I think its mainly the case of they will try anything to reduce deaths on the road IMO.
Not alot really can help but i suppose its a start.
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Half Pint
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yea.. but when you read this it makes you think.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7282000.stm
he was a good mate and such a sad loss 
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nova_gteuk
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Shaun Marshall, 18, was jailed for 13 months at the High Court in Glasgow on a reduced charge of dangerous driving.
why did only he get a short sentence?
and how the hell did they crash,cant find where it says what happened?
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Scotty C
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Originally posted by Steve
jail means fuck all these days
It means Tv's, ps2's & free hot dinner these fucking days. Make prision like it was in the 50's IMO. Their woul dbe far less crimes.
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by Half Pint
yea.. but when you read this it makes you think.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7282000.stm
he was a good mate and such a sad loss
£1000 fine thats it
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JonnyJ
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it wont help though because unfortunately most young drivers think they are F1 drivers. I did when i passed. My example through first hand experience is when i passed i had a shit slow 1.2 8v. I managed to write that off doing silly speeds on a road not designed for them speeds, i also experienced lift off oversteer for the first time and panicked. I could have killed me and my mate that night, i got lucky and i learned.
Since then i have a lot more respect for cars and their limits and have driven much faster cars and not even come close to crashing.
You need to reach the people driving and make them respect how a car behaves, maybe more courses should be done on car control.
[Edited on 18-03-2008 by JonnyJ]
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stan_the_man
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It was on a part of the A75 in SW Scotland. The main/only road from Carlisle to Stranraer and is always host to deaths and injuries.
Theres one stretch of it, just after a duel carriageway that is downhill. Alot of people top their cars out down this hill, to see what speed they can get etc etc, as usually at night its quite quiet.
These lads did it during the day. they were effectively racing down it, and with it being curved, it adds to the danger and had a head on collision with 1 or 2 cars coming up the hill on the bend. Nobody seems to know the facts of what happened but all we know is 3 people are dead.
Truly ridiculous driving.
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stan_the_man
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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
You need to reach the people driving and make them respect how a car behaves, maybe more courses should be done on car control.
Nail, head, hammer 
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nova_gteuk
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4774547.stm
^^ my mate kierans in prison for a simalar thing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4353012.stm
And my old skool mate lesly died in that because sum knobs where racing<disgusts me like
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by stan_the_man
quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
You need to reach the people driving and make them respect how a car behaves, maybe more courses should be done on car control.
Nail, head, hammer
Dont be ridiculas, education and learning is the not the way to solve a problem, as that involves spending money!
Much better to just ban and fine. Yeah, that works.
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JonnyJ
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Aye i forgot how well thats has been working Jamborinio 
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Fro
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Originally posted by Steve
jail means fuck all these days
Tis true, Playstations/Tv's/ free food etc.
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Rebecca
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My mate even had a mobile phone... its stupid. Holiday camp!
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corsa - gus
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Shaun Marshall, 18, was jailed for 13 months at the High Court in Glasgow on a reduced charge of dangerous driving.
why did only he get a short sentence?
and how the hell did they crash,cant find where it says what happened?
one of the boys pulled out to overtake and hit a car coming the other way head on killing the driver an badly injuring the passenger, which also meant the car he was overtaking was involved in the accident. the boy he was overtaking was racing him. both hadn't passed their tests very long iirc, maybe as little as a couple of weeks. the boy who got the reduced charge lost control due to the accident and hit the crash barriers.
this happened just down the road from me, tbh the piece of road where it happened is notoriously bad as its three lanes and you can use the third lane to overtake going eitherway.
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
jail means fuck all these days
It actually means a better life for some believe it or not. My mate got a phone call from a guy that was caught with a LOT of drugs last year last night. He was in his room watching the football on setanta, drinking cider, dropping pills and using his mobile they've given him. He weeds the garden and plants some seeds in return.
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Brett
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
jail means fuck all these days
It means Tv's, ps2's & free hot dinner these fucking days. Make prision like it was in the 50's IMO. Their woul dbe far less crimes.
Regardless of that, I doubt anyone would want to go to prison. I wouldn't.
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Steve
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thats becvause you have a reasonable quality of life, if you didnt it would be like holiday
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Hammer
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If your caught with someone elses stockpile of gear i'd say a wee room with sky and your own mobile would be just the ticket.
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Brett
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Well, we can all assume can't we.
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Steve
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ex mrs used to work in the health care dept of a cat a prison, pretty reliable source of information what its like
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
Well, we can all assume can't we.
Nah the guy phoned from his cell last night when i was there i heard the conversation word for word. He's a gardener, he weeds some plants in exchange for being locked away from the guy hes lost drugs as well as having sky tv a mobile and being allowed to drink at certain times. Not a bad life for a rotten jakey that was nothing more than a drug runner on the outside.
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chris-sri
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That's quite a long sentence for death by dangerous driving fair play to the Judge
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