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corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 18:38

i have a 1.4 corsa sport in sexy black...bodys pretty sound and engine is sweet as a nut, buttt i want more power and have a good £1k to spend...was thinking of saving a wee bit more and get a c20xe conversion, then i thought maybe x16xe conversion, but may aswell buy another corsa then which has it already

so i have sum options:

1.) X16xe corsa and tune

2.) Just whack a c20xe in it and shut up

3.) sell mine for £1400 add the grand and get summat for £2500??like?
4.) keep the 1.4...lower and style with steinz skirts etc and be happy with 90bhp for another year

5.) pug time (106 gti)

JM_16v

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8th Mar 08 at 18:39

how old are you

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 18:41

smallblock all the way!!

I'm not being biased

Superlite Ltd.

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8th Mar 08 at 18:42

c20let by far imo

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 18:44

c20let is too much cash superlite and dont fancy turbo really!

jm_16v - 23 in may...if u mean for insure...really doesnt matter like, can insure all options, most cars upto insurance group 14 are below £800 for the year, paying £480 for the 1.4 at moment

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 18:48

Tune the 1.6

eastend

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8th Mar 08 at 19:01

quote:
Originally posted by Monster
Tune the 1.6

Ste L

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8th Mar 08 at 19:03

c20xe

there's no replacement for displacement

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 19:03

i need sum info on this though really! whats obtainable from the lump and what am i gonna see from say £1500 into tuning it??? and where can i find a MINT 1.6 corsa sport haha...gonna be hard to find one as good as my 1.4...my sister will buy the 1.4 tomora if needs be...spill the beans monster

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:05

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
c20xe

there's no replacement for displacement

TB's

Jenko_Sport

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8th Mar 08 at 19:06

Ignor all the smallblock comments ah you'll get alot more out of a c20xe

Superlite Ltd.

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8th Mar 08 at 19:06

Waste of money tuning a 1.6 unless its for competition use where you want to be in a lower class.

If you can afford bigger, get bigger!

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:06

quote:
Originally posted by corsa_rob
i need sum info on this though really! whats obtainable from the lump and what am i gonna see from say £1500 into tuning it??? and where can i find a MINT 1.6 corsa sport haha...gonna be hard to find one as good as my 1.4...my sister will buy the 1.4 tomora if needs be...spill the beans monster

You can buy a X16XE for £200. You say you've got 1.5k to spend?

That'll get you TB's, fitted & mapped off Dave A.

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 19:12

quote:
Originally posted by Monster

quote:
Originally posted by corsa_rob
i need sum info on this though really! whats obtainable from the lump and what am i gonna see from say £1500 into tuning it??? and where can i find a MINT 1.6 corsa sport haha...gonna be hard to find one as good as my 1.4...my sister will buy the 1.4 tomora if needs be...spill the beans monster

You can buy a X16XE for £200. You say you've got 1.5k to spend?

That'll get you TB's, fitted & mapped off Dave A.

what difference am i gonna see though?

accelleration wise?
powers gonna be a good 150bhp im guessing?
will handle the same, so a plus there

what else could i do other than throttle bodies? inlet (mantzel?,decat,remap,cams,headwork???Etc???)

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:14

you'll see atleast 150bhp, yes. Accelleration will be brilliant, will pull & pull all the way to limiter.

If you don't want TB's, get the same spec as i'm going to do, you'll still see 150bhp

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Monster]

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 19:15

quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Waste of money tuning a 1.6 unless its for competition use where you want to be in a lower class.

If you can afford bigger, get bigger!

its the hidden costs that scare me i think with a c20xe
the 1.6 idea would have the engine straight away in the new corsa and can slowly tune the lump while im buying the exterior stuff i.e skirts, cc; ing and that...i wanna do all the work myself if i can i learn and for the crack. where as i could go buy a better car for £2500 really...i love the tinkering around

Ste L

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8th Mar 08 at 19:17

what hidden xe cost's?

any modded car's gonna have problems, not just xe's...

also, as your buying a 1.6, the engine may have reliability problems too

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 19:17

quote:
Originally posted by Monster
you'll see atleast 150bhp, yes. Accelleration will be brilliant, will pull & pull all the way to limiter.

If you don't want TB's, get the same spec as i'm going to do, you'll still see 150bhp

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Monster]

whats the full spec monster and costs? roughly like

hope ure be coming to a west mids met once back on the road, must go to one soon

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:20

Engine plans are -

Got a rebuilt C16XE overbored to 1648cc
BMC CDA - £130
Mantzel - £250
Headwork - £175
Newman 264 cams, adjustable pullies - £450
Janspeed manifold - £100
de-cat full system - £300
ARP rod bolts - £30
SBD rollers - £90
7500rpm rev limit
Remap off Dave A - £400

Yup. i'll be coming to a meet when i'm driving again

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Monster]

corsa_rob

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8th Mar 08 at 19:21

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
what hidden xe cost's?

any modded car's gonna have problems, not just xe's...

also, as your buying a 1.6, the engine may have reliability problems too

....explain please mate

lol
such as getting a shit c20xe that dies and needs a rebuild

where as i can generally get a newer...more likely healthier x16xe engine that will be sound...and go from there...im half and half with ideas tbh

Ste L

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8th Mar 08 at 19:24

doesn't matter how new an engine is, it can still have reliability problem's...

i payed £200 for a old coscast 20xe + brakes, and it was mint, ran sweet as a nut, and never had any problems with it

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Ste L]

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:31

And then I payed £3k for a T reg sport with 60k on it, then 2 weeks later the headgasket went, then it started to smoke so I changed the rings, then a bolt went into the engine so it needed new pistions, then the bottom pullie went and it needed a new one, and a timing belt kit.

moral of the story?

Doesn't matter how new then engine is, it WILL go wrong.

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Monster]

r595mnp

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8th Mar 08 at 19:32

iv got a 1600 corsa sport 11 months mot 6 months tax £1100 if ya interested u2u me

Ste L

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8th Mar 08 at 19:33

^^^ exactly what i was saying..

you never know really, could be mint when you buy it, then few week's later etc could fuck up..

doesn't matter if it's a c20xe or a new x16xe

edit : monster edited his post, and basicly said what i just said

[Edited on 08-03-2008 by Ste L]

Scotty C

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8th Mar 08 at 19:34

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