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wilson_sri

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25th Feb 08 at 21:04

Anyone see the new GTR on 5th gear?

fir3vip3r

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25th Feb 08 at 21:06

yeah, not too keane on the front tbh, looks good from the side

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25th Feb 08 at 21:06

mwahhhaa were getting the first rs6 at work

Whittie

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25th Feb 08 at 21:07

quote:
Originally posted by wilson_sri
Anyone see the new GTR on 5th gear?

Yeah, not sure about their nurburgring time though... doubt it'll be faster than a veryron tbh.

Did look pretty amazing though

Neo

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25th Feb 08 at 21:08

OMG how cool was that episode !

I love the GTR, not as much as an r34 but quite a lot

The tree thing was a little scary !

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25th Feb 08 at 21:14

quote:
Originally posted by Whittie

quote:
Originally posted by wilson_sri
Anyone see the new GTR on 5th gear?

Yeah, not sure about their nurburgring time though... doubt it'll be faster than a veryron tbh.

Did look pretty amazing though

its been done whittie

mattk

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25th Feb 08 at 21:28

I want a camper van, they looked soo cosey

Tom

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25th Feb 08 at 21:39

Well good the gtr

RS6 is not that impressive imo, prefer an older one and the change

pow

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25th Feb 08 at 21:51

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
I want a camper van, they looked soo cosey

Me 2

We are OFFICALLY getting old

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 21:58

quote:
Originally posted by Whittie

quote:
Originally posted by wilson_sri
Anyone see the new GTR on 5th gear?

Yeah, not sure about their nurburgring time though... doubt it'll be faster than a veryron tbh.

Did look pretty amazing though

Why?

Have you seen the nurburgring?

it's not all about top end speed. It's about carrying speed through corner after corner... I would expect the GTR with it's fancy gizmo's to do this far far better than the heavy veyron.

Ever wondered why Top Gear haven't had a veyron round their test track? because it'd get whooped, not because it's not a staggeringly quick car in a straight line, but just because it's not the best handling car.

Which you'd expect after all it's heavy and gives a nice comfortable ride and still handles fairly well. But some light weight, stiff suspension, proper sorted 'track car' will always beat it.

mattk

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25th Feb 08 at 21:59

would you rather have a Veyron outside or a GTR

mattk

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25th Feb 08 at 22:00

quote:
Originally posted by pow
We are OFFICALLY getting old

I agree, im off to be in a second,

Fad

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25th Feb 08 at 22:01

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
would you rather have a Veyron outside or a GTR

A GTR

pow

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25th Feb 08 at 22:01

Paul you have a point

Matt

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:01

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
would you rather have a Veyron outside or a GTR

Veyron no question.

I'd sell it, and buy a porsche Gt3 RS and have spare cash to buy a house near the nurburgring

Tom

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25th Feb 08 at 22:02

Read up on how the buggati handles paul

mattk

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25th Feb 08 at 22:03

Exactly what I would do Paul, Except Id buy an Escort Cosworth and a nice house

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:04

quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Read up on how the buggati handles paul

I'm not saying the Veyron handles bad.... FFS

I'm saying it'll get out handled by a lighter weight, better handling car.

Nurburgring is not about top speed at all, or even acceleration, which is why a 205 1.9 Gti can hassle like 300 bhp cars round there!

I'd imagine around the nurburg the heavy weight of the veyron making it have to slow down more for the bends, than a lighter and better handling car.

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:07

I rest my point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e17-yLgTWw0

look how slow it's going through most of those bends!

Normal track it'd be fine, but nurburging has a lot of corners one after another after another... (it's pretty much non stop corners with a couple of straights) meaning a car that can carry it's speed through will go quicker... then when it gets to a straight the veyron will catch up.

Fad

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25th Feb 08 at 22:07

You had to try your best not to use a 106 GTi in that example didn't you Paul

Tom

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25th Feb 08 at 22:07

Better handling is a bit of a sweeping statement though? I am not questioning your knowledge of the nurberg but it's not that much of a technical track is it?

You say better handling, do you mean better in slow tight corners as i'm sure the veyron handles better in a a longer faster corner

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:09

Now watch the Nissan GTR!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2U1Fw5nE-8

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:10

What makes you think that tom? the faster the speed it's going, the more g forces that it'll make in the bend... The heavier the car is, the more sideways force is acting on the car and therefore tyres.

Paul_J

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25th Feb 08 at 22:11

quote:
Originally posted by Tom
Better handling is a bit of a sweeping statement though? I am not questioning your knowledge of the nurberg but it's not that much of a technical track is it?

Also nurburgring is an extremely technical track

I don't think there's one that's worse! it's got 138 bends or whatever

goes up and down all over the place.

[Edited on 25-02-2008 by Paul_J]

Fad

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25th Feb 08 at 22:13

Paul i've signed myself up for a June visit now I am pooping myself thinking about it

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