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richc
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20th Jan 08 at 20:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is a vid, not that you can see much



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEiXlD9YdmE&feature=related
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20th Jan 08 at 20:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

derv power

all that smoke suggests the ibiza is mapped... or the owner added a clever smoke screen device





[Edited on 20-01-2008 by Gavin]


pew pew pew pewwwww
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20th Jan 08 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol bye bye vts didnt no could get the tdi that quick lol

[Edited on 20-01-2008 by SXI - Matt]
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pmsl, just looks like the saxo is chasing a rain cloud down the m'way
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model dervs are no where near as smokey as that TDI. The owner has mapped it to 200bhp... I cant quite remember the techy reason of this... but it often results in a trail of rain cloud coming from the back.

I think it would be a fairly even race from 0-40 between the TDI and VTS but after that the VTS will start to see a cloud of smoke


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To be fair, for that to be 200 bhp, it must have well over 200 lb ft of torque too

off the line i think the vts would still have it, but pretty obvious what the results are gonna be after leaving the start line with that much bhp + torque.

[Edited on 20-01-2008 by Paul_J]
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mine has well over 200 lb ft of torque as standard, 230lb ft to be precise, so if thats got 200bhp its lively to have 310 +
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That ibiza must be undrivable.
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Spin Spin Spin, change gear, spin spin clutch slip
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in the dry it woould be fine
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quote:
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in the dry it woould be fine


yeh. Not that quick. It's only shifting when its in 3rd / 4th gear etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
in the dry it woould be fine


yeh. Not that quick. It's only shifting when its in 3rd / 4th gear etc.


Yer but that shows proper power when you keep pulling at a strong rate all the way to top speed.

That saxo just shows it accelerates through first coulpe of gears quick because it weights as much as a toy car

[Edited on 20-01-2008 by richc]
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
in the dry it woould be fine


yeh. Not that quick. It's only shifting when its in 3rd / 4th gear etc.


This guy has driven the ibiza in the vid, he knows when the car pulls
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Who has drove it?
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quote:
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in the dry it woould be fine


How much dry do we get in this country

And mine spins in the dry with a dab of the throttle

[Edited on 20-01-2008 by pow]
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i've prob got over 250lbs of torque

and i can control mine from spinning with ease!
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thottle control

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the two / quotes replies around my posts, I don't really get it to be fair. What are the points your trying to make.

rich I'm not denying the power / torque... where did i say it was slow. I'm just saying in 3rd / 4th / 5th / 6th it's not quick enough / powerful enough to be spinning up in the dry.
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Oh through 3rd onwards, no way would you get wheelspin.
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
the two / quotes replies around my posts, I don't really get it to be fair. What are the points your trying to make.

rich I'm not denying the power / torque... where did i say it was slow. I'm just saying in 3rd / 4th / 5th / 6th it's not quick enough / powerful enough to be spinning up in the dry.


I just thought by you saying....'yeh. Not that quick'. But i get it now, you were refering to POW's post
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quote:
Originally posted by richc
quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
the two / quotes replies around my posts, I don't really get it to be fair. What are the points your trying to make.

rich I'm not denying the power / torque... where did i say it was slow. I'm just saying in 3rd / 4th / 5th / 6th it's not quick enough / powerful enough to be spinning up in the dry.


I just thought by you saying....'yeh. Not that quick'. But i get it now, you were refering to POW's post


no prob bud

 
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