16vKarlos
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It might only be a small accident, and it might also end up with my car getting sorted out VERY nicely...
((( Those of you that dont know SUSSEX i will try and explain as much as possible.. If you get bored IM SORRY  ))
Basically i was heading towards brighton From Eastbourne way, on the A27, I approched the roundabout by lewes ( one up from the new By-Pass)
For those of you that dont know the area Emagine a normal rounabout with two lanes!!
Anyhow, some fell is just pulling out while ive caught up with him as he is going very slow (looking for the burger van the other side of the roundabout)
He couldn't choose a lane, so he pulled into my lane(fast) and i had to jump into the slow lane.
Im then pretty much undertaking him as we pull onto the next stretch of road, When he decides to pull back accross me as he has seen the burger van and not looked...
After him getting out and RANTING at me.. i calmly said to him..
Now you have finished screaming at me, as you pulled into the lane i was in i had to move accros and was then undertaking because of your silly speeds coming around the roundabout.
he then said... Oh, alright its my fault i will get it all sorted out for you, no worries at all.
On my way home i got several quotes, one of my quotes from D.B Auto's in Eastbourne, quoted me a rough estimate £900 for a new front bumper and new drivers side front wing and a bit of polish on the wheel.
I then saw a friend 'TREVOR' at 'PETER JOHNSON's' in Bexhill, + he quoted me £600-£700 for a new Front Bumper and Front wing, wheel sorted, and with the extra paint ( my passenger side RUST sorted + blown in)
The guy phoned to see if i was all ok and to appologise for the damage, and said he will get it sorted out ASAP.
He also Said I know you want to modify it with a GSI Front bumper. so i said well how do you know that? (he had spoken to trevor)
He told me that he was more than happy to pay for all the work, and he told me to get a GSi bumper + he pays the standard bumper price/ i pay the extra
Sorry for the long story, BUT
moral of this story is, if your are nice about things you may never know what people can do for you!!
All the best
Karlos
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John
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So you got hit while undertaking somebody, i'd have told you to fuck off then reported you whether I had provoked you or not.
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16vKarlos
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nope.. he completely cut me up on the roundabout and he then did it again after when he saw the burger van, obviously hitting me..
I had no where to go apart from the inside lane as he cut me up, but then did it as he came off the roundabout
[Edited on 14-01-2008 by 16vKarlos]
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by John
So you got hit while undertaking somebody, i'd have told you to fuck off then reported you whether I had provoked you or not.
dunno does sound like the twat who hit him was driving like a plank swerving all over the lanes and using the roundabout incorrectly.
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16vKarlos
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Obviously it is hard for you guys to tell, but if your were in the car a the time you whould have said the same thing..
There is no way it could have been my fault.
1) wasnt speeding
2) full control of the car
3) 'I' knew where i was going 'he' didn't
but i fully understand as it sounds dodgy from how it comes accross when reading it.
Karlos
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JonnyJ
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So you was in one lane, he swerved across meaning you had to move into the other lane and then he took you out on the roundabout?
Yep, sounds like his fault id say at the end of the day he was in the wrong lane to come off the roundabout at the turning he wanted
As is my understanding of it anyway
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by JonnyJ
So you was in one lane, he swerved across meaning you had to move into the other lane and then he took you out on the roundabout?
Yep, sounds like his fault id say at the end of the day he was in the wrong lane to come off the roundabout at the turning he wanted
As is my understanding of it anyway
i think 16v carlos is clear of fault ... however if this bloke who caused it was going straight across, dual carriageway to dual carriageway (i.e. 3 lanes on the roundabout) then he's allowed to be in the middle lane and the person in the left lane has to take the next left, or should be aware of traffic from the right, going straight on / left.
But that said the bloke who caused it sounds like he didn't know what he was doing to be honest. and a risk to everyone.
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JonnyJ
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I was defending Karlos, Paul. Was saying the other driver was at fault
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by JonnyJ
I was defending Karlos, Paul. Was saying the other driver was at fault
I was agreeing the other driver was at fault due to scenario, but actually pointing out legally by the high way code, the driver had the right to be in the middle lane and turn off - and that karlos being in the left hand lane should of turned off left, or slowed down and moved into the middle lane if he wanted to continue off right, around the roundabout.
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16vKarlos
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This was coming off a dual carrige way onto another dual carrigeway...basically if you want to turn right when getting to the roundabout my understanding is that you are in the fast lane and to turn left at the roundabout you are in the slow lane.... but also you can use both lanes to go straight accross?? Correct?
to make it sound easier he has cut infront of me just like you would cut a roundabout if you were following the 'Apex' if you like
make any more sense lol
cheers Karlos
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16vKarlos
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thank you for your replys guy's its good to see peoples views on it
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Paul_J
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This correct??
IF yes, he is actually not at fault. You should've slowed down and given way to traffic approaching from the right if u wanted to carry on right...
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Jules
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TBH this thread sounds fucking stupid to me, let me disect it a little:
1) He pulled into the lane you were in infront of you, and this "made" you swap lanes?
If I was in a lane, and I saw someone from a neighbouring lane drift across into my lane, I'd slow down so we were both in the same lane - I wouldn't go out of the lane I wanted to be in just because he didn't know which one he wanted.
2) You've put in CAPITAL LETTERS the name of the garage you're going to and how good it is that they're going to sort out the rust on the other side for you, fuck it you may aswell of posted thier phone number to complete the free advert for thier company!
3) The guy admitted it was his fault, offered to pay up to keep it out of the insurance companys hands (no doubt he does have insurance but doesn't want to lose his NCB which is probably protected anyway....smells fishy to me personally), and he actually tells you to go and get a more expensive bumper that the one he's admitted to damaging?
Like fuck would anyone do that? I mean seriously?
Because you were nice? Bullshit!
He's probably doing it cos he's not legally insured and doesn't want to "rock the boat" incase you report him.
It all stinks of haddock to me, I'd say that you've had a look under the car and there seems to be more damage that you had noticed previously and you'd like to go through insurance.
Why people accept deals like this when not at fault is a fucking mystery to me!
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16vKarlos
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this is my drawing.. not great but gives you a rough idea..........
Karlos
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Cole
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the burger van is actually the 1st turning on the left althought there is a bus stop right next door to the burger van if he was looking for that i coul understand why he went round the way he did obviously a plank was a much better roundabout b4 the traffic lights were put in
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Toby
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Originally posted by Jules
TBH this thread sounds fucking stupid to me, let me disect it a little:
3) The guy admitted it was his fault, offered to pay up to keep it out of the insurance companys hands (no doubt he does have insurance but doesn't want to lose his NCB which is probably protected anyway....smells fishy to me personally), and he actually tells you to go and get a more expensive bumper that the one he's admitted to damaging?
Like fuck would anyone do that? I mean seriously?
Because you were nice? Bullshit!
He's probably doing it cos he's not legally insured and doesn't want to "rock the boat" incase you report him.
It all stinks of haddock to me, I'd say that you've had a look under the car and there seems to be more damage that you had noticed previously and you'd like to go through insurance.
Why people accept deals like this when not at fault is a fucking mystery to me!
he said get a gsi bumper but hes only paying for a standard so he has to pay extra
tbh mate you worded the undertaking bit wrongily which has got you in trouble,
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AK
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load of shite. both at fault, both cant drive
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Dan.H
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Originally posted by AK
load of shite. both at fault, both cant drive
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16vKarlos
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HAHA...Say no more
Karlos
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Ben G
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load of shite. both at fault, both cant drive
and you're the best driver in the world , of course 
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_Allan_
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Should have just stopped for a burger tbh.
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by AK
load of shite. both at fault, both cant drive
and you're the best driver in the world , of course
You aren't very good at reading either then, are you? At no point did I say that.
If you think you are in anyway 'in the right' you clearly are a dimwit. You must have been going at some speed to undertake someone on a roundabout. Fair enough he may have hit into you, but you BOTH swapped lanes, both did wrong things.
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Steve
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did you get a burger?
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16vKarlos
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AK - he was going MEGA slow... because of the fact he was looking for the burger van... I was doing 30 when approahing the roundabout and was going slower when going around the roundabout, ( thats why there is not much damage because it wasnt a fast or hard collusion)
Baring in mind if you look at the Highway Code you will see a speed for aproaching roundabouts.. 30mph... cheers
Steve.. No didnt get a burger as i had somewhere to beso got the details and had no choice to move on
Karlos
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johnhara1
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Pics of damage?
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