Matt L
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for the 1.2 8v corsas??
just curious
[Edited on 10-01-2008 by Matt L]
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grogan
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3 or something mate
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Tom
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**Awaits 'more than vtec' comment**
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Matt L
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lol i was going to put that but i just thought it was obvious.
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whitter45
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55lb/ft isn't it
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Simon_16v
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Engine only makes 45 so i'd say about 38
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Steve
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it doesnt matter what bhp the engine makes, doesnt mean torque has to be less, my car has 130bhp and 230 lb/ft for instance
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Simon_16v
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Your car is deisel, they tend to make more torque than petrol's.
Petrols tend to make more horsepower than torque.
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Adam_B
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mine doesnt, 191bhp and 210 lb ft. You cant relate to one to work out the other.
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Dave A
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well the BHP is derived from the torque, dynos dont actually measure BHP they measure torque and the BHP is worked out my the computer.
BRAKE HORSE POWER
What is "Horsepower" or HP?
Lets start at the dawn of time - or at least the beginning of mechanical devices. Any "engine" was obviously going to be compared to the ability of the then main power sources to do labour - horses, men and oxen. As most of the devices were used drive industrial equipment the natural comparison was therefore the 2/1 Favourite at Ascot. So, even the pioneers of the time realised that marketing of the new fangled machin'rey was important so they likened the power of their devices to a certain number of horses.
Moving on from this early start, a famous engineer called Captain Thomas Savoury reasoned that if it took eight to ten horses to operate a mine pump 24 hours a day (two horse working at a time with the next pair taking over when the last two became tired), then a mechanical device that did the same job in the same time had 10 - 12 hp! You can move on through history with this through the likes of James Watt but you are not here for a history lesson!
So what is "brake" Horsepower or BHP
Well simply this is power that has been measured on a brake or normally known now as a Dynamometer. This device provides a load for the engine to "drive" against and then measures the torque produced by the engine, which if it is then multiplied this by crankshaft revolutions per minute and adjusted with the standard figure, it provides a horsepower figure.
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Scotty C
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
it doesnt matter what bhp the engine makes, doesnt mean torque has to be less, my car has 130bhp and 230 lb/ft for instance
TD, obviuosly though
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ShEp
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3turd's worth of pushing from next wednesday ft/lbtorque
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Simon_16v
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Ok il say every n/a 4cylinder petrol engine produces less torque than bhp
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deano87
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It doesn't have torque, according to Parkers:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Summary.aspx?model=989

12v is 60lb-ft, so I'd imagine less than that.
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Ste L
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probably about 40lb/ft
not enough to pull the skin of a rice pudding
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Matt L
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Steve
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quote: Originally posted by SRi_Si
Ok il say every n/a 4cylinder petrol engine produces less torque than bhp
really? the corsa d 1.4 16v for example
88bhp
92 lb/ft
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nik
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My old Evo before the I/C and boost controller was 375/372 so nearly even stevens.
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Simon_16v
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Ok fair point but its not as it is greatly higher is it.
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Ste L
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quote: Originally posted by Steve
really? the corsa d 1.4 16v for example
88bhp
92 lb/ft
true, but the ecotec small block engine's are de-tune, in a way to keep the torque, if it wasn't de-tuned, it would of have more power than torque
[Edited on 10-01-2008 by Ste L]
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Paul_J
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it's just relative to whether they make peak power over or under 5252 I think you'll find.
most TDi's make it low down.
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Ash_EP3
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The 1.6 Sport is 106bhp 109lb/ft app?
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Simon_16v
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quote: Originally posted by S214_UPP
The 1.6 Sport is 106bhp 109lb/ft app?
What ste said
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Mattb
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quote: Originally posted by SRi_Si
Ok il say every n/a 4cylinder petrol engine produces less torque than bhp
my calibra made 220bhp and 242 lb/ft...
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Eck
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That's not normally aspirated though Matt But yeah, what he said is tosh though
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