Doug
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Right my GF needs a new car soon and I have the chance to get hold of:
Fiat Punto HLX (top spec I think) 1.9 JTD
Y reg, 128k miles, silver, 5 door.
It has full service history and wont have ever been driven hard.
The guy is just after an easy sale so I could get it for a good price.
I want peoples honest opinions on these cars. Has it reached the end of its life with that mileage? How reliable are they? I have never liked Fiats but are they fairly decent cars?
What is the going rate for the car? Whats the trade price?
Or would it be worth saving up more to get a Polo or something?
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richardworrall
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FIAT = Fix It Again Tomorrow. Wouldnt touch em with a barge pole but that just personal opinion having used to work with em.
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richardworrall
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how much you looking at spending
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Doug
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Well there is no set budget TBH.
Wouldnt be much more than 2k though.
Only reason she would be buying now rather than a 6 months time would be if the price was right. So what would the car be valued at trade price and private sale price?
I know they had a bad rep but have they improved?
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richardworrall
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off whatcar website
Prices
Dealer £3,245
Private £2,395
Part Ex £2,195
Cost New £10,870
[Edited on 07-01-2008 by richardworrall]
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pow
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128K on a not particually well known diesel is a bit questionable, but i've nevr had any MAJOR problems with a fiat - silly rattly trim, things poping off that pop back on again, but they arent as bad as people make out.
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Doug
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Im hoping someone on here might be a member on a fiat site so they could either post up for me or know about common faults etc.
Really not too sure about how good they are. Esp at that age 
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Doug
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From Parkers:
JTD HLX 5d
2001/Y
Average mileage: 50,000 miles
Original Price £11,001
Franchised Dealer £2,490
Independent Dealer £2,290
Private Good £2,135
Private Poor £1,680
Part Exchange £1,895
Thats based on 50k miles though.
I may offer him £1250 and see what he says
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richardworrall
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Oct 99 Range Intr as 3/5dr hatchback. Base with rake/adj/PAS, airbag, immobiliser, man/drivers/seat/ht/adj and RDS r/c. ELX trim as base plus e/s/roof. Speedgear adds 6sp auto/sequential. HLX adds alloys, air-con, r/c/locking, rear/3pt/centre/belt and e/htd/mirrors but no s/roof. Sporting with rear spoiler, front fogs, sports seats and lthr/sports/wheel. Sporting Speedgear adds 7sp auto/sequential. HGT has alloys, air-con, rake/adj/PAS, r/c/locking, immob, alarm, airbags, side/bags, ABS, t/control, e/f/wins, sat/nav, RDS r/c, CD multi-changer, man/driv/seat/ht/adj and spl/f/r/seats.
Intr with 80bhp inj cat Turbodiesel 4cyl engine. 5sp man.
Jul 00 Range ELX, HLX, Sporting, Sporting Speedgear and ELX Speedgear get passenger airbag and ABS as std. Base now comes with e/f/wins, c/locking and passenger airbag.
May 02 Range F/lifted and new trim levels Intr. Active with e/f/wins, immob, airbags, c/locking, PAS and RDS r/c. Active Sport as Active plus sport seats and RDS cd. Dynamic as Active plus r/c/locking and RDS cd. Sporting as Dynamic plus e/s/roof. Eleganza as Dynamic plus alloys, e/htd/adj/mirrors and aircon. HGT as Eleganza plus t/control, sat nav and cd m/changer. Abarth as HGT plus branded kick plates and side skirts.
Discont.
Jul 03 Range Facelifted. Active gets e/f/wins, computer, c/clocking, p/steering, immob, airbags, radio/cass. Active Sport adds, alloys, rear spoiler, fog lights, radio/CD. Dynamic as Active plus e/htd/mirrors, r/c/locking, aircon. Dynamic Plus adds alloys, fog lights. Eleganza adds climate control. Sporting as Dynamic Plus, plus rear spoiler, ESP. HGT as Sporting plus climate control, traction control, MP3, multi/CD.
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johnhara1
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My friend has the 1.9JTD Stilo
The JTD engine is excellent, very reliable, and it's quick.
It gets amazing MPG too, hers is an 03 plate and it gets better MPG (55mpg+) than her fella's Golf TDI which is newer.
The seats in the stilo are very comfortable (prob same in punto??) but the inside doesnt feel its the most well made, i.e. vibration in the dash when stereo is on etc
[Edited on 08-01-2008 by johnhara1]
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Dave A
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remaps on these engines see +45bhp and +60lb/ft of torque!
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DarkBahamut
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
My friend has the 1.9JTD Stilo
The JTD engine is excellent, very reliable, and it's quick.
It gets amazing MPG too, hers is an 03 plate and it gets better MPG (55mpg+) than her fella's Golf TDI which is newer.
The seats in the stilo are very comfortable (prob same in punto??) but the inside doesnt feel its the most well made, i.e. vibration in the dash when stereo is on etc
[Edited on 08-01-2008 by johnhara1]
The 1.9JTD they put in the stilo is a common rail unit though, most with 115bhp. The 1.9 JTD in the 2001 punto is not a common rail unit and only produces 80bhp. Quick it wont be, but it should do decent MPG i suppose, though non common rail units tend to produce more of that horrible diesel sound.
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johnhara1
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oh rite, i didnt know that.
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Simon_16v
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MY mate had a 2000 punto sporting and steering rack failed on it.
£900 from fiat 
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T21SVJ
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u2u kurt on here he might be able to give you, a few answers he works for parts in fiat.
fiat desiels are normaly strong engine, its the gearboxes, interior trim etc that can feel cheap and that.
if you service it and look after it i dont see why it would go wrong.
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lacky75
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Had a punto 1.9 jtd 2001 y plate, its deffo a common rail diesel , great engines and raerly go wrong, rest of the car is ok( odd rattle, squeek...etc)
And about reliability i worked for fiat for many years and can honestly say we very rarely saw any of the diesel cars in for repair!!
(now working at volkswagon and cant say the same for the vag diesels).
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WU-TANG- DAN
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im getting a punto this week, 1997 'R', new MOT all for £450
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willi
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mate i work in auto electricals, dont bother wi fiat, they r crap, built like shit look like shit. stick wi vauxhall.
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WU-TANG- DAN
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i dont think their as bad as people make out and i think they look ok, nothing fancy but ok, i miss my corsa now.
[Edited on 08-01-2008 by WU-TANG- DAN]
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JinThaMC
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mattk aint gonna be happy..
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