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Dave A

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29th Dec 07 at 15:22

for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

k e l

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29th Dec 07 at 15:39

ye but the top speeds certainly showed that the lets and v6s were qicker

Vaux Lad

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29th Dec 07 at 15:44

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

Different drivers tho too.
Especially important on the 1/4 times.

cash_2_my_corsa

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29th Dec 07 at 16:45

to true

richard_cooper

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29th Dec 07 at 17:29

quote:
Originally posted by k e l
ye but the top speeds certainly showed that the lets and v6s were qicker

yes but where can you use that speed, even on a track a n/a 2.0 would beat a v6 or let

SportBoy

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29th Dec 07 at 17:46

wtf how were they just as fast if not faster ?? they mostly got slower times,and the ones than did put a decent time in were 200+bhp as half of them were throttlebodied and one nitrous

[Edited on 29-12-2007 by SportyBoy]

ChrisBoom

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29th Dec 07 at 18:09

1.6 8v impressed me, wasnt that far below the XE's.

mattk

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29th Dec 07 at 18:14

So 2.0 are quicker than 2.0T`s

ScottBeck

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29th Dec 07 at 18:28

lol most of the lets had interiour bar one, and all the xe with throttle bodies had either lsd's or quaife straight cut boxes and a couple of xe's were running semi slicks so bit of a advantage there don't you think?

Steve

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29th Dec 07 at 18:42

i dont think the v6 is a particualry good conversion anyway, lazy revving and heavy

Ste L

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29th Dec 07 at 18:49

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i dont think the v6 is a particualry good conversion anyway, lazy revving and heavy

if using a flat fly and f20 (which most would if a conversion) probably weigh the same as a let on an f28...

Steve

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29th Dec 07 at 18:55

still its easier to fit a LET and make it lighter, as well as tuning it

X 60RSA

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29th Dec 07 at 19:07

The v6's are lazy when you have a flywheel weighing 15kgs! No wonder they dont pick up until your past like 3k!

Col004

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30th Dec 07 at 00:10

Personally i love my let but that v6 nova with the turbo bolted on it was awesome. check out this vid... that nova is rapid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGP5dtnyoN8

[Edited on 30-12-2007 by Col004]

16V_1600

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30th Dec 07 at 01:20

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

Just got total Vaux today. There is a C20XE nova with a whole sec quicker to 60 than a LET nova.

**considers XE over LET to go in my sport**

Steve

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30th Dec 07 at 03:24

my guess is though that the xe will have had lots of work and the let not so.

lets not get confused the xe's advantage is really in its smoother power delivery and ability on track, pound per performance, or direct comparison staight line speed its never going to beat a let.

Steve X16XE

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30th Dec 07 at 03:26

Even if they have the same gearbox and rev limit?

nova_gteuk

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30th Dec 07 at 03:27

Ades old nova was more impressive,all built from a 2litre 8v cav sri engine,more known as the issac hunt nova.

[Edited on 30-12-2007 by nova_gteuk]

Steve

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30th Dec 07 at 03:27

how do you mean?

Jambo

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30th Dec 07 at 09:34

lets not forget that the way a car drives, throughout the rev range and in different gears is a reason to choose a turbo that will be responsive and very torquey all over the revs, rather than having to rev the tits off a N/A engine.

If i were using one on a track id go N/A But i much prefer the drive of a turbo car to that of a N/A one. Quicker on the road IMO.

bazgsi

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30th Dec 07 at 10:43

some awesome cars there, was it just my eyes or did that cavvy have a 5 stud conversion?

SportBoy

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30th Dec 07 at 10:46

also the xe that got fastest 0-60 was useing nitrous and uses road legal cut slicks .. and in drag raceing if it has nitrous it goes in the same class as turbo cars .. the silver xe in there was the best imo that must be 250ish bhp to get a 107 terminal on the 1/4 and 148 on speed run

Vaux Lad

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30th Dec 07 at 12:15

quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

Just got total Vaux today. There is a C20XE nova with a whole sec quicker to 60 than a LET nova.

**considers XE over LET to go in my sport**

That's a tb'd/nitrous'd XE that has more power than a let

lol
Plus its a car built for pretty much 1/4s

[Edited on 30-12-2007 by Vaux Lad]

16V_1600

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30th Dec 07 at 12:30

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

Just got total Vaux today. There is a C20XE nova with a whole sec quicker to 60 than a LET nova.

**considers XE over LET to go in my sport**

That's a tb'd/nitrous'd XE that has more power than a let lol
Plus its a car built for pretty much 1/4s

[Edited on 30-12-2007 by Vaux Lad]

I don't know what to save for then, If I get to half way and get the car XE'd then regret it and wish I'd gone for the LET. It's doing my head in

BAZ 1256

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30th Dec 07 at 13:01

quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad

quote:
Originally posted by 16V_1600CS

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
for anyone that read it, very interesting to see that the n/a 2.0 engines were just as fast/faster than the Let's and V6 ones. granted they had a proper gearbox but goes to show that fast doesnt necessarily mean having a turbo or big engine.

Just got total Vaux today. There is a C20XE nova with a whole sec quicker to 60 than a LET nova.

**considers XE over LET to go in my sport**

That's a tb'd/nitrous'd XE that has more power than a let lol
Plus its a car built for pretty much 1/4s

[Edited on 30-12-2007 by Vaux Lad]

I don't know what to save for then, If I get to half way and get the car XE'd then regret it and wish I'd gone for the LET. It's doing my head in

if its road car and your just wnating an engine swap then LET it!!
youll spend a shit load more on an XE to make it faster.
iv spent thousands on my XE and its fast but i would never use it for a road car

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