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Edd
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13th Dec 07 at 12:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
electronic stability programme


advantages? disadvantages?

keeps kicking in in this pishy weather at the minute


i feel the car actually handles and performs better without it on

[Edited on 13-12-2007 by Edd]
Robbo
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I always used to turn it off in my GIT tbh, that said it hardly ever came on anyways, very stable car!
Joe
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Its for the retards that can't really drive, Not that i'm Michael Schumacher or anything but my S3 is alot easier to control with it off.
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I leave mine on with the shit weather but it does kick in a bit early. Other annoying thing is a light on the dash to tell you it's off. I know it fecking is..I switched it off!



[Edited on 13-12-2007 by _Allan_]
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i allways turn it off in anything VAG i drive
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depens what car its on. the esp on the c2 vts is so intusive its dangerous, you can be flying around a corner and it will just cut the power causing the car to become unstable and shoot the rear end out.
the esp in the vag cars is quite good tho letting you make use of the power you can use.
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quote:
Originally posted by _Allan_
I leave mine on with the shit weather but it does kick in a bit early. Other annoying thing is a light on the dash to tell you it's off. I know it fecking is..I switched it off!

[Edited on 13-12-2007 by _Allan_]

[Edited on 13-12-2007 by _Allan_]



aye same here


plus when i switch it off it automatically comes back on when i start the car again


just stay fucking off
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
depens what car its on. the esp on the c2 vts is so intusive its dangerous, you can be flying around a corner and it will just cut the power causing the car to become unstable and shoot the rear end out.
the esp in the vag cars is quite good tho letting you make use of the power you can use.



206 gti and while its not dangerous its more of a pain especially on roundabouts
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13th Dec 07 at 13:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jr
i allways turn it off in anything VAG i drive
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I like it in mine, its saved my ass a number of times.
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Leave mine on in the day to day car.

The weekend car is a mans car so it doesnt have it anyway!
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
depens what car its on. the esp on the c2 vts is so intusive its dangerous, you can be flying around a corner and it will just cut the power causing the car to become unstable and shoot the rear end out.
the esp in the vag cars is quite good tho letting you make use of the power you can use.


Very true I have had lots of fun with mine! And it only cuts in sometimes! Seen me understeering loads and nothing then another time will slide a little and it goes crzy, if you put your foot down in the wet it is terrible, like kangaroo petrol, power on, off, on off!! Jerky as anything!!

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13th Dec 07 at 15:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
The Clios is VERY intrusive, cant turn it off (bar pulling the fuse).

Always found the VAG ESP very good for normal driving, does get intrusive in the wet.
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surely if its kicking in you are going too fast anyway so should be slowing down?
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try driving a diesel with 230lb/ft of torque at 2k rpm in the ice/greasy conditions
Gareth
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got ASR on my skoda, doesnt work though it keeps wheel spinning
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
try driving a diesel with 230lb/ft of torque at 2k rpm in the ice/greasy conditions


try 270lbs/ft and rear wheel drive
dannymccann
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lol fair enough
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quote:
Originally posted by Gareth John
got ASR on my skoda, doesnt work though it keeps wheel spinning


does it not even flash at you?
Gareth
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yeah but it makes no difference if its on or off
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oh, mine does, i find it better than my leons as that seemed to just cut all power
Gareth
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It is traction control yeah?
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
try driving a diesel with 230lb/ft of torque at 2k rpm in the ice/greasy conditions


AMEN Steve
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Not really had a proper go in mine with it off. Will start flashing in 3rd if I'm being a bit brutal
deano87
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Quite intrusive on dad's M3. Whenever you put your foot down, and I mean really booting it on an uneven road, you get a proper disco going on in the dash.

I think the flashing light is probably more dangerous than the programme.

Get a 12v GLS, no such fandangles, just you, the car, and the road


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