radicalry00
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Following the recent appearance of numerous supplement threads I got thinking...
Can any of you bodybuilding types/gym-goers recommend tried and tested performance supps that you have had positive experiences with? The reason I ask is because a few months ago I started with tribulus and testo booster type things (a load of shite by the way) and didn't really see any dramatic effect as advertised.
The only supplements I have seen good results from are Creatine, Taurine and L-Glutamine. I find these to be very good when utilized pre and post workout. 
By the way I'm not talking about meal-replacement type powders like whey and oats, just other supps like amino acids and creatine.
So, any good/bad experiences? 
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radicalry00
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Nobody at all? Surely somebody takes supps and goes to the gym on here.
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AdZ9
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If your only just starting you dont need any supplements bar whey powder, its a waste of money as you need to nail a diet/workout 100% before supplementing otherwise they do naff all except eat away your money.
Creatine/CEE is good but remember it increases water retention, you need to drink lots of water with it.
I take Glutamine, Whey and Cassein Whey thats it at the moment. You can take BCAA's but like i said it all depends on your level.
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mattk
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Optimum 100% whey is all I use
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Craig W
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If you expect to get dramatic effects as advertised, you'll always be dissapointed.
IMO the most important supplement (apart from protein powders) is Glutamine.
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Craig W
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i think CNP is an excellent company. Expensive, but i'm currently using Pro-Peptide (best protein supplement around imo), Pro-GF pre workout, Pro-Recover post workout and i use Pro-Glutamine in certain shakes.
My diet is spot on, i only use these products to supplement it.
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radicalry00
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Cheers for the reply Adz.
I'd class myself as beginner-intermediate at the moment to be honest. Although I've been training since I was 16 (I'm now 19) I've only began to get my diet right over the last 12 months but I've seen big gains in this short time.
Been taking L-Glutamine, Creatine and Taurine pre-workout and noticed that I'm much more focused in my workouts. I don't ache half as much too with the Glutamine. I'd recommend them all.
I may try BCAA's as just noticed myprotein stock it. What about some of the non-essential amino acids? Have you ever used stuff like Beta Alanine Adz?
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radicalry00
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mattk: Yeah Optimum 100% is good stuff, tastes nice but I find Myprotein's stuff just as effective at a lower price.
Craig: I've heard about Pro-peptide and was going to give it ago. Where's the cheapest supplier? I've tried to get my diet spot on the last few months and it seems to be paying off. Eating all this chicken, tuna and oats is bleeding expensive though. I think I'll have to start shopping at Netto. 
[Edited on 10-12-2007 by radicalry00]
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Craig W
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908g - http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/58/1/Chemical-Nutrition-Pro-Peptide----908-Grams.html
2270g - http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/3128/1/Chemical-Nutrition-Pro-Peptide-(Bag)-2270g.html
I find these the cheapest because i buy in bulk with the multi buy deals.
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radicalry00
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lol Just realised how much of a rip off my gym is for supps. They charge £35 for the 908g tub. Think I'll order some of that Craig. Is this as a replacement for Whey or in addition to?
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Craig W
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Buy 10 or more 908g's and get them for £18.77 each
I multi buy the 2270g.
Pro-Peptide is the only protein supplement i use at present. I would usually have whey post workout but use Pro-Recover instead.
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Brabus
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I used to use 100% optimum whey twice daily but now spend that money on 5 chicken breasts every weekend, one daily in the week, along with a tin of tuna daily, in between my normal meals
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AdZ9
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quote:
Originally posted by radicalry00
Cheers for the reply Adz.
I'd class myself as beginner-intermediate at the moment to be honest. Although I've been training since I was 16 (I'm now 19) I've only began to get my diet right over the last 12 months but I've seen big gains in this short time.
Been taking L-Glutamine, Creatine and Taurine pre-workout and noticed that I'm much more focused in my workouts. I don't ache half as much too with the Glutamine. I'd recommend them all.
I may try BCAA's as just noticed myprotein stock it. What about some of the non-essential amino acids? Have you ever used stuff like Beta Alanine Adz?
Never mate, used BCAAs before, and used a bit of creatine, but stopped the crea as i started a cut, so stopped the usage.
At the moment all i use is multivitamins, whey/cassein protein, glutamine, flaxseed oil caps and fishoil caps.
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Craig W
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Brabus i don't want to urinate on your fire but you need more than 1 chicken breast and 1 tin of tuna a day if you want to grow. I'm assuming your 'normal' meals dont contain anything in the way of protein?
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Brabus
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Not really as with my normal meals aswel, usually consisting of, oats/porriage/banana for breakfast, jacket with prawn/colslaw(sp) or beans for dinner at work and ususally large home cooked tea(ie sunday dinner/curry/chillie) as well as chicken breast and tuna between these meals, this is 1.5x my body weight in pounds in grams of protien. Bearing in mind im short and weigh approx 70kgs.
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Craig W
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So that lot is 1.5x your weight in pounds? You're 70kg so approx 154lbs. You're telling me that what you listed is 231g of protein? Bearing in mind a chicken breast is approx 22g protein (100g).
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radicalry00
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Brabus, yeah sounds like you're getting enough protein providing the protein content of your cooked tea and how much tuna you're eating. Surpisingly, there's only about 30% protein in tuna (think I read that on here somewhere.)
I try and make sure I eat at least 300g of chicken breast a day. Along with 2-3 whey shakes, tuna, eggs, nuts and low fat cottage cheese.
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AdZ9
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quote:
Originally posted by radicalry00
Brabus, yeah sounds like you're getting enough protein providing the protein content of your cooked tea and how much tuna you're eating. Surpisingly, there's only about 30% protein in tuna (think I read that on here somewhere.)
I try and make sure I eat at least 300g of chicken breast a day. Along with 2-3 whey shakes, tuna, eggs, nuts and low fat cottage cheese.
Hes getting enough protein if hes a 12 yr old girl. No way is he getting enough.
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radicalry00
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Yeah you're right. How often do you usually eat Brabus? I just try and eat every 2-3 hours.
This is an example of my daily diet:
Meal 1
» 100g Ultra Fine Scottish Oats.
» 300ml Skimmed Milk.
» 2 scoop of Whey Protein
» 5g L-Glutamine
»Multivitamin
Meal 2
» 2 x slices of Wholemeal Bread.
» 200g Chicken Breast
» Salad to taste.
» Handful of nuts.
Meal 3
» 100g Pasta
» 6 egg whites
»Handful of nuts
»5g L-Glutamine
Meal 4
» 2 Slices Wholemeal Bread.
» Tin of Tuna.
» Salad to Taste.
» 5g of Creatine.
Pre workout
» 100g Ultra Fine Scottish Oats.
» 2.5g Taurine
» BCAA Tablets/powder
» 1 scoop of Whey Protein
Post Workout
» 2 scoops of whey protein.
» BCAA Tablets/powder
» 100g Ultra Fine Scottish Oats.
Meal 6
» 200g Cottage Cheese.
» 350ml of Milk.
» 250g of Small Sweet Potatoes.
» Handful of Nuts.
»5g L-Glutamine
Usually, the meals change order alot though depending on wheter I can be arsed cooking chicken at said time of day.
Hope this helps.
BTW, just ordered some CNP Pro-peptide formula Craig
[Edited on 11-12-2007 by radicalry00]
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