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dan_c4rsa
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2nd Dec 07 at 18:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

already done matey my mate came over and we put is set on my car and he has 8mm leads too

still no luck
Dave A
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2nd Dec 07 at 19:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hi Dan.

we had a similar problem when we first tried to start it after the rebuild, we fitted new plugs and checked all connections and it was down to something with the coil or distributor, but then after refitting it all it fired up absolutely fine so we checked for loose connections and it was fine.

vid sounds like its not running on all 4 cylinders to me, ignore the wires behind the dash not being connected as I had a look under there when the rev counter stopped working and it is a bit of a mess of wires and black tape, looks like someone has had a good play around under there.

what did the plugs look like when they were removed?
dan_c4rsa
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2nd Dec 07 at 19:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

very sooty. 2 were damp, 2 had actual liquide around the base, and one slightly damp on the top arc if you get me.

As soon as i let my foot off the gas it simply cuts out.
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2nd Dec 07 at 20:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like too much fuel or not getting a spark.

If I had to guess I would try a new coil and dizzy setup, especially as we had a problem that went away after we had disturbed them.
dan_c4rsa
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2nd Dec 07 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well im confused to as why the car runs better if i keep me foot down a while???

Yeh well i might tow it to the MOT and just say stick a new Dizzy/coil on it for me. See what its like.

Torsa g
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3rd Dec 07 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had this same problem mate, it would fire then just about run then it wouldnt run after we switched of, so i changed crank,tempand fuel relay, as the relay gives the fuel rail a signal to fuel properly, mine now runs a treat,

please try all these three as im sure this is ur problem, the only thing is im not sure wat one sorted it but it could of been a combination of things, plus we had no engine light to
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does it show up on diagnostic equipment? my mates having a gander now with his gadgets.

Are the relays on the ecu or in the wiring? New plugs/sensors too maybe?
Adam-D
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

purple relay i think it is
Torsa g
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the relay will be on the loom near the ecu, theres only one on the hole loom its black and got 6 or 7 pins on it ,

it is an c20xe were on about here isnt it
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeh mate.
I have a few black boxes by the ECU under the fuse box but i dont think there's any 7 pin ones.

Maybe some 4 and 6 but they each only have one/2 wires in each?
Nic Barnes
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

some xe's had the fuel pump relay next to the coil.

oddly had same with mine ages ago although you could hear the relay buzzing like mad adn then car obviously would start to massively overfuel etc etc. new relay didnt cure it. i never ever found out what it was. one day it just stopped doing it and never returned. id checked everything, yet fixed nothing.
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmm.

i duno if the lomos been tampered with or not due to a digi dash etc so not sure.

anyone got a pic.

Im utter SHITE at wiring, the best wiring i can do is change fuses and wire in headunits
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Change the Ignition Coil. It was the answer to mine only firing on 2 cylinders.


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engine loom other than dash warning lights shouldnt have been touched to put a digi dash in
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cheers muppet for the help

and ok phil yeh good idea, we're trying that next.

I think we have a spare double plug coil laying around if that would help.
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 15:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and tbh i dont think the dash has been wired up as the indicator signals dont even light up while indicating......
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

who wired the digidash in?
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whichever owner had it before me


i only noticed the lights werent working on the dash when i'd given him the money lol. Oooops.

no biggy just means i dont know whether EML is on etc
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Ahh that could be abit shit.

Iirc the eml light should stay on with the keys on the acc position
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wiring behind your digidash is shockingly bad dan as I found out when I wired up the rev counter.
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yup lol.


im thinking of paying for a proffesinal car electronics company to put a fresh simple loom in it and tidy it all up when its fixed.

Not heard from me mate yet, which is probably goo dnews as he's not stuck.

So at the minute its either - bad wiring, coil/dizzy, or leads.

Then i duno - will be a trailer and off to Dave A again haha.
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I had nearly the same problem. Running rough as fuck some of the time, then changed it's mind to all the time, ok on full throttle, shit on part throttle. EML light flickered when it was gonna fuck up. The fuel relay buzzed it's balls off. Sounded like it was running on 2. Tried all sorts to solve it.

Turned out it was a dodgy earth.

[Edited on 03-12-2007 by Dean_W]
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im not loosing power from the battery or anything though.....


also checked gearbox earth, alternator earth and then there were two smaller ones to the right/top of the block that i had to bolt down and theyre all fine. any others to think of?

[Edited on 03-12-2007 by dan_c4rsa]
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you might not thoigh, the earth might just upset the voltagte readings from certain sensors the ecu needs
dan_c4rsa
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3rd Dec 07 at 16:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmm. i dont see what could have happened as it was all kushty before it went in...... who knows. Maybe somethings just buggered due to sods law.

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