scoob
Premium Member
Registered: 16th Oct 03
Location: Beverley, E Riding of Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
been looking at these for a few days now got my self signed up to clio sport, and im thinking about getting one. you can pick them up fairly cheap now. been speaking to a mate and he told me the crank angle sensors go on them and the bottem end on some of the eary ones?
|
scoob
Premium Member
Registered: 16th Oct 03
Location: Beverley, E Riding of Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
the idea is to tune it and use it for track days
|
Colin
Member
Registered: 4th Apr 02
User status: Offline
|
iirc the phase 2 is far better!
|
scoob
Premium Member
Registered: 16th Oct 03
Location: Beverley, E Riding of Yorkshire
User status: Offline
|
i thought the phase 1 is ment to be better they both fall into my budget and i prefer the look of the phase 1
|
Colin
Member
Registered: 4th Apr 02
User status: Offline
|
Ah I canny mind just thought I remember someone saying something along those lines
|
Bram
Member
Registered: 25th Mar 02
Location: Derby
User status: Offline
|
I'd take a ph1 over the ph2, has loads more character! 
|
gavin18787
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Feb 05
Location: Basildon, Essex
User status: Offline
|
ask fear on here as he has one of each, there is a thread in the projects and builds section on his two
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
|
P1CK4D
Member
Registered: 19th Jun 06
Location: Around Essex Somewhere
User status: Offline
|
Correct gavin.  He says the phase one is the better one to be had.
|
Baskey
Member
Registered: 31st May 06
User status: Offline
|
depends on the engine, Ph1's are slighty quicker, as in if you notice you need to get out more, but generaly the BHP on the renaultsport engines can differ from car to car and IMO this makes more of a difference.
If your gonig to track it it might be worth considering the Cup, which were ph2 but cost lest to buy when new.
on the top gear track it holds it own aginst some decent machines
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/
Watch if the cam belts been done as its a 6+ hour job and needs doing about 60k or 5 years (so now if it hasnt had one)
Also they absolutly cain frout tyres, but thats part of the fun
[Edited on 20-11-2007 by Baskey]
|
gavin18787
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Feb 05
Location: Basildon, Essex
User status: Offline
|
this is the projects thread that i was refering too
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=394775
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
|
deano87
Member
Registered: 21st Oct 06
Location: Bedfordshire Drives: Ford Fiesta
User status: Offline
|
One for sale in Luton. £3500.
|
big eck
Member
Registered: 20th Apr 03
Location: Tullibody. Drives - Audi B8 S4 & Fiesta Zetec-S
User status: Offline
|
I love the look of them, very cheap now to
|
mwg
Member
Registered: 19th Feb 04
Location: South Lakes
User status: Offline
|
Phase 1's look very dated. But if its only for track work looks dont matter
|
Robbo
Member
Registered: 6th Aug 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
Speak to Fear, he has one of each now lol
|
Fad
Member
Registered: 1st Feb 01
Location: Dartford Kent Drives: 330cd
User status: Offline
|
Phase 1's are known as the phase quick as they have none of the weigh downs as the Ful fat phase 2 172's
Just a remap full exhaust and a set of billet cams, and a maxogen intake and your nudging at 200 bhp
With a set of H&R coilovers set up by Mark Fish and the mods above you'll be laughing on the track.
The key is not to tune the fuck out of it as the car is well balanced. After talking to Brad Fincham he was telling me about a turbo'd 182 getting slayed by the 172 cup with slight breathing mods proves this point.
Sam (fear) just bought a phase 1 with a GDI package worth over 3.5k on it and is currently running over 200 bhp. There is no doubt this is a quick car for the money!!
There are many tuned up examples that come up from time to time so these tend to be the best buys.
[Edited on 20-11-2007 by Fad]
|
Fear
Member
Registered: 20th Nov 02
Location: Down off the hill
User status: Offline
|
TBH i cant give an acurrate comparison as the Ph1 as fad says is quite highly tuned and so in a different league to the ph2!
When i was originally looking for my ph2 i went for it because of the looks and interior, theres no denying it looks abit more up to date but i wouldnt say better now i have the 2 together, i think the ph1 has more stance and character!
You do notice the difference in interior as it is abit more dated due to colours, BUT im guessing as a track car there wont be alot left!
If i keep mine for any length of time im gonna look at a few track days possible and strip out the rear as i can see it being abit quick on a track!
With the breathing mods and omex management ive got once you hit 4k it flies, standard it really kicks abit later at nearly 5k!
Handling wise there are pretty sorted already and even just a set of eibachs would do you well, but as fad said abouve H&R coilies it seems are the boys to go for for track!
If it was me then the Ph1 ticks all your boxes with teh cup getting abit of a look in, but if it is going to be MAINLY a track car, then i dont see the point in the extra expense!
|
JM_16v
Member
Registered: 17th Oct 05
Location: Essex Drives: GLC63S
User status: Offline
|
i like them
|
Robbo
Member
Registered: 6th Aug 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
the phase 1's seme to be becomign very popular little track day cars, pretty affordable as well!
Id consider a Ph 1 Cup for a track day car tbh
|
Fear
Member
Registered: 20th Nov 02
Location: Down off the hill
User status: Offline
|
Robbo they only do a ph2 cup! or the new one just about to come out!
|
gavin18787
Premium Member
Registered: 22nd Feb 05
Location: Basildon, Essex
User status: Offline
|
I looked into them and they are nice and cheap on insurance too for what they are
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
|
Robbo
Member
Registered: 6th Aug 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by Fear
Robbo they only do a ph2 cup! or the new one just about to come out!
do they? didnt knwo that lol!
|
Fad
Member
Registered: 1st Feb 01
Location: Dartford Kent Drives: 330cd
User status: Offline
|
Robbo I was initially going to buy a phase 2 cup but I kinda got carried away and blew my budget away
Gavin this 182 costs more than my GSi to insure
|
Robbo
Member
Registered: 6th Aug 02
Location: London
User status: Offline
|
Good choice for the day to day tho matey 
|
broster
Premium Member
Registered: 6th Dec 02
Location: Drives: E39
User status: Offline
|
if tis for track days etc then get the phase 1, strip it out buckets etc, then you already have cable throttle for throttle bodies etc.... spend some more money on brakes and suspension and you'll be laughing.
awesome cars.
as for the phase 1 being faster than a phase 2, maybe faster than a full fat but the phase 2 cup i have has had a few challenges from a phase 1 and never noticed a difference
|
