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Robbo
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7096814.stm
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She was initially sentenced to 90 lashes for being in the car of a strange man.

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kin'ell thats out of order!!
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crazy

it sounds harsh but on the other hand, if she had obeyed the law it wouldn't have happened

[Edited on 15-11-2007 by andy1868]
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Well that sounds like a sane country...
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I'm speechless. What sort of justice is that and how can any Country defend such a legal system.
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quote:
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I'm speechless. What sort of justice is that and how can any Country defend such a legal system.


The Saudi one....

Its totally male/religious orientated.

I lived there for a bit, again with my dad. His boss was (how can i say this in a non discriminatory term?) a dwarf/deformed cripple.

His wife was a princess of similar religion, and utterly gorgeous.....she gave him two beautiful kids, but couldn't bear a third child due to medical reasons.

The result?

She was kicked out of the house, number two wife beame No1 and another (younger) wife was taken on as number two..

I dont agree with that, but thats their way....their country and their rules, shame we dont do the same here.

As an aside, we were warned when stonings were happening...and were told to keep away. We kept away, but the sounds of somebody dying like that were truly horrific
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Yeah I suppose it is their country and we don't have the right to impose our values on them but bloody hell the difference is mind boggling. Over here you can't smack a child who runs out into the road anymore but over there a woman can get 200 lashes and go to prison for being in a blokes car despite being gang raped.
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quote:
Originally posted by chris-sri
Yeah I suppose it is their country and we don't have the right to impose our values on them but bloody hell the difference is mind boggling. Over here you can't smack a child who runs out into the road anymore but over there a woman can get 200 lashes and go to prison for being in a blokes car despite being gang raped.


Shame the majority coming here dont have the same mindset as us eh?
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Not being nasty or anything.. But I really makes you wonder how much brains and common sense these country's have!
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What. The. Fuck.
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Philistines.
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Jules good little readup that.

Its strange how the arabic religion slightly changes from country to country.

Im not religious, but find religion interesting as its the bain of so many bloody wars I like the arabic religion though, but only in certain parts.

If anything, i could be an extremist, because thats all they do, (these nutter scuicide types) take the part of the religion they want, and ignore the rest...

Its a very interesting thing, but man they've also got some very 1 sided fcuked up laws too
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I go to Uni in Luton, and naturally, there are all race and religions there.

There are some, what I'd call, orthodox muslim males there. Beards, wearing the long gown type things, so they are clearly strict in practicising the religion.

Yet all of them wear Nike trainers - isn't that what they are essentially against?!
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR


Its strange how the arabic religion slightly changes from country to country.




saudi is a muslim country BTW

never heard of this arabic religion ca you tell us more about it?
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Arabic and Muslims are quite similar.

Research is on the net, its very much available. Heres the 1st link I found...

http://www.arab.de/arab/Society_Culture/
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Hard to believe we're in the 21st century.
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muslim countries are not in the 21st centuary. they ahve not really changed much since the crusades.
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one thing boggles me about that article, if unrelated women and men arent allowed to asociate with each other, does that mean you have to marry a cousin or sister
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Originally posted by Kurt
one thing boggles me about that article, if unrelated women and men arent allowed to asociate with each other, does that mean you have to marry a cousin or sister

Probably not - once the arranged marriage has been arranged by the dad's, they are no longer strangers. I guess
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Originally posted by Jambo
Palestine.


Na'h, think it was Saudi Jam
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quote:
Originally posted by Kurt
one thing boggles me about that article, if unrelated women and men arent allowed to asociate with each other, does that mean you have to marry a cousin or sister


A lot of inter-family marrying goes on. It's getting to a point now where the man and wife are going for tests before having children because of the children being born deformed etc.

You may look at Saudi and think "nut cases" (and may well be right), but the difference between a country such as the UK and Saudi is that Saudi is governed by Religion. They don't allow any other religion, and have no intention of. Westerners living in Saudi are known to try and smuggle christmas trees into the country at christmas time to try and make their places 'christmas like'. There is literally no other room for any religion.

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Originally posted by pikey pete
muslim countries are not in the 21st centuary. they ahve not really changed much since the crusades.


Spend a week here and then a week in Saudi and you'll soon see that your generalizing comment above is complete bollocks. The UAE judicial system is still in the crusades at times, but that's also changing slowly but surely.

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Originally posted by deano87
I go to Uni in Luton, and naturally, there are all race and religions there.

There are some, what I'd call, orthodox muslim males there. Beards, wearing the long gown type things, so they are clearly strict in practicising the religion.

Yet all of them wear Nike trainers - isn't that what they are essentially against?!


Serious question - why would they be against Nike trainers?

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