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Dave A
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lots of noise and flames



full story and vids here: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=452146
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Good Work. Noisy as feck
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TomSBD
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to be honest that sounds horrible

might sound better in real life??
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Love a cerbera cant wait to watch that vid when i get in!
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the tvr broke pistonheads
All Torque
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One of these drove past me on the way up to Stoke once, its was Kawasaki orange with a single black stripe and was louder than World War II
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Pete, you were alive during WWII? Old cunt!
Nick-S
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love that sound,
nice work dave
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Who knows Jules, who knows.
Ben G
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my old team leader at my work has a purple cerbera with black wheels had pics of it at santa pod but cant find them
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i was up at hexham testing a few TVRs and asked about taking out the cats and going straight, both salesmen were strongly against due to the loss in back pressure

this true dave?
Dave A
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backpressure is a myth made up by people that want to create a name for something that is very difficult to describe and explain.
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Can we call it "Brian" in that case Dave?
E.G Removal of cats is rumoured to result in a loss of Brian
Nick-S
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explane dave?

i thought engeins were supose to need a bit of back presure ?
Dave A
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yes, lets call it brian, I did try and describe it once on here I will look for the thread.......
Dave A
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how Brian works:


quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
copy and pasted from another thread I posted on about backpressure:

exhaust design is a lot more complicated than people realise. most off the shelf exhausts are more for the look and sound rather than perfomance really.

what some people term as 'backpressure' does exist but its not strictly backpressure as such. Making an exhaust that is well designed isnt easy, to do it properly everything from inlet design, cylinder pressure, valve overlap values need to be taken into account (sometimes refered to as 'pulse tuning' )

the Idea behind 'backpressure' is this: as exhaust gasses exit the combustion cylinder into the exhaust posrt and into the manifold they are at a high speed. once the exhaust valve closes the gasses create a virtual vaccum behind them, this helps to suck the next load of waste gasses out and so on... if the exhaust bore is too big or too free flowing or the primaries of the manifold are too short or long then the amount of pressure pulling the next lot of waste gasses out of that cylinder is reduced therefore the gasses escape slower and the speed of the engine is reduced and the inlet gasses enter slower and so on....

there is a lot more to exhaust design than you might think......
Nick-S
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is that more to do with n/a exhaust dave?
Dave A
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on a turbo application the manifold design isnt as complicated as you have a reverse pressure created by the spinning turbo. this helps to 'pull' the gasses from the cylinder rather than relying on the gasses 'pulling' the next combustion gasses from the cylinder.
Nick-S
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learn something new every day
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not a fan of that, its too loud
Dave A
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any car sounds loud from 4ft away on a dyno.

although it is seriously loud, thats what the customer wanted. sounds amazing in real life.
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It sounds like an old transit van with a hole in the exhaust at low revs. Have heard TVR's in metal sounding alot better than that so guess its just the quality of the recording that makes it not sound so good! Prob sounds awesome for real
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it is a v8 right? dont sound like one
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stright 6

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