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scottyp1989
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29th Aug 07 at 21:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are these easy to fit???

and what bulb kit would i need?? or does it make a difference?

wasnt there some one selling the kits on here not long back lookin at geting some now

big eck
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29th Aug 07 at 21:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The ones I can get are plug & play, had them fitted to my 106 gti and gettin a set fitted to my cupra now

There light night and day compared to the standard units. I went for the 6k bulbs, there all basically the same but the higher the number the bluer light they are
scottyp1989
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29th Aug 07 at 21:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ye how much can you get these for mate?? as i am really intrested in these

any one now what they look like on depos?? or morettes?
big eck
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29th Aug 07 at 21:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I can get them for 130 delivered, I know you can buy them cheaper but the cheaper sets you usually have to splice wires together the ones I use you dont.

Plus it all depends if you want the standard xenons or the Bi-xenons the Bi's being the dearest
scottyp1989
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29th Aug 07 at 21:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so whats the difference between the xenons an the bi-xenons?? an im guessing these will fit anycar not just a corsa
mattk
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29th Aug 07 at 23:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My Bosch (USA) Set Cost me 80 but I think they were knock off with no instructions

Piss easy to fit and look awsome

Just orgered some projectors to use with them

Gaz has a set on his corsa he has Depos and there shit hot
Steve
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30th Aug 07 at 07:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

people will argue otherwise but they are only legal if you have focused lens's, not reflective back type.

people are now going to state ones with deflectors are legal blah blah but i dont believe it.

i think its a grey area hence why some go through an mot ok
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30th Aug 07 at 08:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

here we have it in black and white

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/home.php?cat=279
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30th Aug 07 at 08:01   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Are these HID systems road legal?



Aftermarket HID systems are not road legal due to the fact you cannot 'E' mark a bulb that is of different type to the bulb it is replacing (ie HID for halogen). Therefore we can only sell these as off road use conversions.
Hamish
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30th Aug 07 at 08:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dint dave a sell road legal e marked ones?
Steve
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30th Aug 07 at 08:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dave also sold bmc airfilters

i know he's going to come and try and claim his are emarked but to be blunt i dont believe him.

it says right there you cant emark a hid bulb for use in a car that doesn't have them
Steve X16XE
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30th Aug 07 at 08:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I don't think that it's the bulb that is the problem, it's the car.

I think that you must have headlamp washers. I remember hearing that somewhere. But if you check out every car with Xenons you'll see that they have headlamp washers.
Phil W
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30th Aug 07 at 13:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
I don't think that it's the bulb that is the problem, it's the car.

I think that you must have headlamp washers. I remember hearing that somewhere. But if you check out every car with Xenons you'll see that they have headlamp washers.


You need Washers And Auto-levelling on HID's that come on cars out of the factory not retro-fitted.
Dave A
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30th Aug 07 at 13:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As long as they give off the correct beam pattern and arent a higher wattage than the standard bulb thats fitted to the car then there is no law against fitting them other than the colour they give off.

My kits were CE, TUV and Emarked. It was also confirmed to me by VOSA that there are no current laws against aftermarket fitment of HID kits as long as they conform to my first paragraph. We also asked the police that told me they work to the laws and rules that VOSA outline.

Im sure that one day there will be a law made against them but as it stands today they are ok to fit.
namkeaps
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30th Aug 07 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Phil W
quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
I don't think that it's the bulb that is the problem, it's the car.

I think that you must have headlamp washers. I remember hearing that somewhere. But if you check out every car with Xenons you'll see that they have headlamp washers.


You need Washers And Auto-levelling on HID's that come on cars out of the factory not retro-fitted.


can you explain why this is? otherwise its complete bollocks

[Edited on 30-08-2007 by namkeaps]
Dave A
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30th Aug 07 at 14:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its true, new cars that come with HID from the factory must have headlight washers and self leveling systems as well as projector lenses rather than plain glass lenses.
burgess
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30th Aug 07 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what dave said
never seen a factory fit hid without headlamp washers
cant remeber the reason why?
poss dirt making the unit overheat on the lenses?
namkeaps
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30th Aug 07 at 15:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so how would it make it illegal if they are no longer there?
welshdude
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30th Aug 07 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I think its due to the fact that HID's give off less heat that standard bulbs so don't demist / defrost the lights
nickyboy01
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30th Aug 07 at 23:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The idea of the washers/levellers is to keep the beam from blinding other road users when the headlight lens is dirty or during accelleration etc. Obviously the headlight would have to be extremely dirty to make a difference in the case of the washers but i guess its a "cover your back" regulation.

Also its not a requirement for them to be fitted in projector lenses, Volvo for one dont fit them in projector lenses on some models but they use a different type of kit to most maunfacturers.
big eck
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31st Aug 07 at 18:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
so whats the difference between the xenons an the bi-xenons?? an im guessing these will fit anycar not just a corsa

The bi-xenons are the hi/low beam ones, the other ones are low beam only
mattk
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31st Aug 07 at 18:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by welshdude
I think its due to the fact that HID's give off less heat that standard bulbs so don't demist / defrost the lights



Is this statement true?

Ive just ordered projector headlights to use with mine but the lenses are plastic and im scared the HIDs are going to melt them


[Edited on 31-08-2007 by mattk]
Dave A
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31st Aug 07 at 19:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not true, Hid lights give off very low heat levels, wont melt your lights.
mattk
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nickyboy01
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
not true, Hid lights give off very low heat levels, wont melt your lights.


What he said, you'll find all new car headlights are plastic to comply with pedestrian impact regulations

 
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