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JM_16v
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19th Jul 07 at 06:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am

what are peoples views?

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by JM_16v]
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18 is a bit unfair seeings as little tossers can get on a moped at 16. 12 months of lessons is also a bit harsh, everyone is different and learns at a different pace and some people are natural drivers. Some people require more than 12 months of lessons.
Alcohol is a good one. No excuse to have a drink and drive. You can go without a pint if your driving. However no alcohol in system is tricky for people out the night before. Everyones metabolism is different and getting banned or points for having 0.05mg or whatever of alcohol would be harsh.

A better restriction would be power or bhp/tonne. Similar to bikes.


[Edited on 19-07-2007 by _Allan_]
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between the age of 10-20 between the hours of 11pm and 5am

what are peoples views?



as long as a cut in insurance for young drivers follows then, also people over 60 should have restrictions put on them aswell as should disabled drivers

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Edd]
Edd
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19th Jul 07 at 07:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

totally agree with the no alcohol part though and i believe it should be that across the board no excuse to drink and then drive at all regardless of age
JM_16v
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i think that no Alchol is bad as there still stuff in your system 24 hours later.

i wont have a drink when i drive but after drinkin i will drive 12 hours later.

the law on passangers is stupid. why is it ok to take a 5 year old out or someone thats 60 but no someone thats 19?

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by JM_16v]
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quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
i think that no Alchol is bad as there still stuff in your system 24 hours later.

i wont have a drink when i drive but after drinkin i will drive 12 hours later.

the law on passangers is stupid. why is it ok to take a 5 year old out or someone thats 60 but no someone thats 22?


From what you said in your first post, you could take out a 22 year old.
JM_16v
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i mean younger
neiliosxi
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I think 6 months of lessons it a bit more reasonable.
Passenger restrictions like this are already in force in places like australia, and. Difficult to police this but a good idea IMO
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I think it should be more liek the Motorcycle test and restrictions. Keep it at 17 but limit the horsepower of the car you can drive for the first two years. For people over 21 there would be a direct access test in the same way as bikes but 17-21 would have a probationary period and limit
ed
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Why don't they just ban alcohol and driving all together? It seems wierd how so many other European countrys do the same, yet we don't.
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I think it should be more liek the Motorcycle test and restrictions. Keep it at 17 but limit the horsepower of the car you can drive for the first two years. For people over 21 there would be a direct access test in the same way as bikes but 17-21 would have a probationary period and limit
That would make a lot of sense, seems silly that you can get in whatever car you like once you've passed, yet you can only get on certain types of bike.

Or you could pose the same sort of restrictions they have in most states of the USA.
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hp restrictions wouldnt make much difference, i could drive a 45bhp corsa more wrecklessly than a 1001bhp Veyron if i wanted too.

12 months is also stupid i was perfectly ready after 2 months and 12 lessons, which i passed first time with 3 minors and was better driver than a lot of mates whod been driving a year already.
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they deffo need to think up restrictions for old people imo
Matt H
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
they deffo need to think up restrictions for old people imo


100% agree
Iain M
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Personally, How the hell are they going to police all these rules and regulations?

I agree with them all, although the 12 months learning i think needs to be looked at. These will hopefully stop chav like people being aresoles on the roads in their 1.1 multicoloured panelled saxo, trying to race anything that moves and showing off to their pissed up mates in the back.
Also stop these people from ruining decent cruises by doing handbrake turns and acting the prick. You know the type i am on about.

Just my view anyway.

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Iain M]
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definately steve, old people are just as bad as young people in my humble opinion.

as for being 18 when you start learning maybe its abit pointless, when you pass your test you're still going to prat about for abit whether you're 17 or 19, simple as that.

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by andy1868]
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I also heard the theory test may contain 100 questions. And that you have to show how to replace a wheel on your test
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between the age of 10-20 between the hours of 11pm and 5am

what are peoples views?



as long as a cut in insurance for young drivers follows then, also people over 60 should have restrictions put on them aswell as should disabled drivers

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Edd]


And what restrictions do you have in mind for disabled drivers ?

Do you not think its hard enough for them to get round without folk like you slapping do's and don'ts onto them eh ?
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"no passengers between 10-20 betwen the hours of 11pm and 5am"

stupid imo. what happens in the event of an emergency

its just as shite as the cheaper insurance you get if you promise to stay off the road between 11pm and 6am
ed
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That's not stupid though because statistically young people are involved in more fatal accidents between those hours when traveling with other young people.
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quote:
Originally posted by Boosha
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
Have to be 18 to pass,
at least 12 months lessons so you wont be drivign till your 19!
Once you driving No Alchol allowed in your system at all till a certain age,
no passengers between the age of 10-20 between the hours of 11pm and 5am

what are peoples views?



as long as a cut in insurance for young drivers follows then, also people over 60 should have restrictions put on them aswell as should disabled drivers

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Edd]


And what restrictions do you have in mind for disabled drivers ?

Do you not think its hard enough for them to get round without folk like you slapping do's and don'ts onto them eh ?



folk like me?

i know 1st hand through family members how important it is to get about but then i also see the flip side of how dangerous they can be..... going round a roundabout the wrong way springs to mind


a lot of young drivers are dangerous but so are plenty of other groups on the road where are all the resrictions on them?


people nowadays have to pass the most stringent test's there have ever been 60 year old disabled folk didnt
Edd
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unless they passed their test in the last 5 years

[Edited on 19-07-2007 by Edd]
Nismo
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none of that will happen
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
they deffo need to think up restrictions for old people imo


quote:
Originally posted by Edd

also people over 60 should have restrictions put on them aswell as should disabled drivers


neiliosxi
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quote:
Originally posted by FasT09
I also heard the theory test may contain 100 questions. And that you have to show how to replace a wheel on your test


I do not see how this will make anyone a better driver. They need to focus on more important improvements.

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