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Author Any of you Saxo VTS buffs - Help needed
stan_the_man
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17th Jul 07 at 14:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My Girlfriends VTS has been running very poorly for quite some time now.

Its a '98 Mk1 and is completely standard with roughly 90k on the clock, and has had quite an easy life with not much 'lead boot' action. It has had the headgasket changed under 6 months ago.

It has a very intermittent problem where sometimes it will just plain refuse to start. It will crank but not fire. If you leave it for a minute or two it will crank and fire, but run VERY poorly, with lots of black and/or blue smoke, and a very unhappy idle - either around 500rpm or upto 2-3000rpm.

It seems to be when left idleing once warmed up it will idle fine, but when you come to pull away i will simply die. almost as it its overfuelling (is this possible??) and then refuse to start like its been flooded.

It also uses ALOT of fuel for not alot of use. I.E. if you drive it gently it will use alot.

I am quite sure however that it does need a CAT as it has the telltale smell.

Could it simply be this thats causing the problems or could it be more in depth??

Thatnk you in advance, Stan.
TNM
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17th Jul 07 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

idle control valve
Kano
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Could be a fair few things... Either throttle position sensor, air temp sensor, lambda... Best bet is to get it diagnosed by a garage and go from there..
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by TNM
idle control valve


It wouldnt cut out with a knackered idle control valve when its driving..
stan_the_man
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Is it only a Citoen garage that can do that or can anyone do it? (im thinking of the days of Nova's/ Corsa's where you just put a split pin in and it flashes up a fault code?)
Scampman
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17th Jul 07 at 14:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fuel pump / coilpack

same thing happened to 2 of my 106gti's, and my gf's 106gti currently has a very similar problem to yours, which i suspect is also the coilpack
K2 GTi
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17th Jul 07 at 14:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Topshot ?
K2 GTi
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Sorry Steve :waves:
Deano_sxi
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coilpack captain, happened on the mothers 206 cc....but pug replaced the injectors, fuel rail, full service, manifold and cat first

haha dicks
stan_the_man
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Shopping list:

Coil pack - (where/how much/are all 16v ones the same?)
Fuel pump - (where/how much/are all 16v ones the same?)
Lambda probe - (where/how much/will any saxo/106 lambda fit?)
Deano_sxi
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find a mate with a 16v pug or cit n swap the bits over 1 by 1 see if it makes a difference
stan_the_man
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Her bother has a 106 GTi MK2 Rally Car.

Would these parts all be the same? (unless theyve been upgraded?)
Deano_sxi
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yup just the same

 
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