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Adam-D
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26th Apr 10 at 07:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or possibly splitting it.
Adam-D
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26th Apr 10 at 07:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

unless someone can help me decide how to get steering feel,

front end feels remote.
eveything is new. so nothing is worn.

was thinking a bigger steering wheel.
then maybee top mounts to add camber. castor etc... "i know nothing about geometry settings"

possibly coilovers
avo. gaz

but then it gets a very expensive corsa
AK
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26th Apr 10 at 07:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

add a little Neg camber.... and as much castor as you can.

Castor gives you the camber you need to keep the contact patches on the ground for the corners and makes it more stable on the straights too.

What Toe settings are you running?

Might be a good idea to get in touch with Dave Paterson (LuckyB) to see if he remembers the setup he used on his old corsa

A bigger steering wheel will make it like a bus.

Do you have adjustable ARBs? Have you tried even have a run with it disconnected?
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26th Apr 10 at 07:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

toe. is paralell. std setting

i have gsi rear arb, with whitline aswell

front is poly bushed gsi 22m arb.

the steering wheel is quite small.. 300mm - 320mm if i remember right.
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26th Apr 10 at 07:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

found this

http://www.simpsonmotorsport.co.uk/uploads/files/SuspensionSetup.pdf

so neg caster is what im after?
AK
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26th Apr 10 at 08:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

strut bottom angled towards front of car, so ja.
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26th Apr 10 at 09:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok, toe.... no idea what to choose. . .
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26th Apr 10 at 09:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

do a google search for toe setting for a FWD car. Slight Toe out will prob be what your are after if you want a livelier turn in.

What settings are you running now?
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26th Apr 10 at 09:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

look at how offset the front wheel is in this pic.... about 5deg castor.

Adam-D
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12th May 10 at 15:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

couple of parts have been orderd
Graham88
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That looks great fun
Adam-D
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these arrived back from avo yesterday

AK
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is that the avo's that were on it when you got the car (or better ones)?
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21st May 10 at 06:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i sold those. and bought these a couple of weeks ago.
they have just been re-built
awaiting one more part.. and ill get thm all mounted up. and then set everything up
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there's a good chance... the cars gonna be split...

Adam-D
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2nd Jun 10 at 07:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just a quick list

bilstien shocks £300

fully refurb'd avo coilovers £450

wheels £300

bonnet with pins £200

boot with plastic window £200

totally bare shell with cage and plastic rear 1/4 windows, doors and wings £650

new eccentric solid topmounts £110

plastic front windows £75

ported polished, built by bill blydstien
engine with cam, pulley, uprated valvesprings £450

carbs, and manifold and filters £450

coolent hoses £120

exhaust manifold £100

manifold back system £150

headertank £100

catch tank £20

front brakes £200

braided lines £50

rear whitline arb £100

front gsi arb £20

front bushes £35

new front arms with bushes £70

fuel tank £30 - £40 with pump

strut brace £30

new radiator with slim fan £60

gsi f15 gearbox £50

gsi drive shafts £150

hubs £40

rear beam with brakes and cable £40

bumpers £20 each

front grill £10

front seat mounts £150

cobra monaco seats £120

steering wheel £30

wheel boss £30

snap off boss £50

front tie arm with bushes £50

centre switch panel. and entire car loom. £80

rear lights £10

front lights £10

dials £20

oil pressure gauge. with sender £100

centre electric heater. £10

short shift linkage £40

compromitive wheels with tyres need re-painting 2 tyres aint great. £200

there may be other stuff. . . ill list it when i remember
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3rd Jun 10 at 18:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

such a shame you couldnt get it to how you wanted after spending so much time and money
Rick Draper
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3rd Jun 10 at 23:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Adam dont be gay.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
unless someone can help me decide how to get steering feel,

front end feels remote.
eveything is new. so nothing is worn.

was thinking a bigger steering wheel.
then maybee top mounts to add camber. castor etc... "i know nothing about geometry settings"

possibly coilovers
avo. gaz

but then it gets a very expensive corsa


who has setup your camber & alignment?
AK
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4th Jun 10 at 23:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whet whet whet - dont split it unless you really need the money.

All its needing is some decent geometry - which isnt expensive.
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4th Jun 10 at 23:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if i remember right someome was saying to remove front anti rollbar when fitting coilovers ????
Adam-D
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5th Jun 10 at 06:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its not that, its the fact i would have to rely on a bodge to get it done. and if it failed who knows what would happen
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Am i missing something?

What would need bodged? And if what fails?
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8th Jun 10 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i would have to make a brass-- alu spacer between the step in the piston rod. and the solid topmount.

and it i does fail on track.. it'd punch throu.... everythin..

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9th Jun 10 at 03:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what / why / when?

I'm not with you. You are saying you need camber inserts?

Forget camber for now. Set it at near 0 (or neg 1 deg ) on the front.
Get the toe double checked - if you dont like it as is (say toe out), swap to a tiny bit of toe in. Or best yet - straight.

Castor - add as much as you can (to get bottom of strut pointing towards front). This will give you all the dynamic camber you need.

Rear camber - reduce it. From earlier pics it look a bit OTT.

Feel wise - They only time I had a problem with that shell and steering feel was just after the shell swap and nothing was aligned (the steering was light and slow to respond). Got the geo done and hey presto it was direct and heavy. (7" wide cut slicks on non assisted rack)

Adding castor will also give you a much more weighty/direct steering action.

I think you are over complicationg things. Get the basics right then add / worry about fine tuning. What have you changed on the front end, or maybe ... what havent you changed?

If you have already had the alignment/geo done maybe post up the results or get it double checked.

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