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Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 13:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Does anyone know where to get cheap recon boxes for a 106, cheapest i can find to fit new gearbox and clutch is £875.95, is that good?
ChrisBoom
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Ahh, did your explode? The gearbox went 4 times in a year on my brothers XSI, so Im avoiding 106s

Recon will be expensive, maybe try a scrappers?
jr
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6th Mar 07 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
second hand one, clutch from motor factors will be about 1/8th of that cost
Scotty C
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6th Mar 07 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I always hear of gearboxes going on these 106's, they can't be that bad, surely?
Cupra Steve
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Well i'm getting quotes of £250 for clutch fitted inc VAT. I would get my brother to fix it but he's off work after an argiment with me and he now has a bad back! So he won't do it for me! And i don't fancy doing it, plus i'd like to get a warranty on it.

I've not blown it to pieces yet but it's whinning, since changing the gearbox oil the clutch is slipping so the seals have probably gone, and it really does make some nasty noises in first and was jolting earlier as if i was kangarooing it!

Doubt i'll sell it after doing all this work!
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
I always hear of gearboxes going on these 106's, they can't be that bad, surely?


Yeah they are shit!
Rob H
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6th Mar 07 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
They're ok if you drive them easy, but if you give them stick, they seem to turn into candyfloss.
Scotty C
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NovalutionGSi
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best time to mate! 106s are nasty to repair! hence why my other half chop'd hers in cause the Rear Axle was knocking!
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by macboom69
Ahh, did your explode? The gearbox went 4 times in a year on my brothers XSI, so Im avoiding 106s

Recon will be expensive, maybe try a scrappers?

I done one on my old xsi! Never learn my lesson!
Paul_J
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6th Mar 07 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you can pick up a 2nd hand box for £150-£200 and get it fitted by a friendly mechanic for £100 or less.

2nd hand box with like sub 30,000 miles.

I bought a 14,000 mile gearbox for only £180.

I've also got a spare in my garage incase I need it in the future

Why do you need a new clutch? - Valeo is best clutch to get and that'll be about £60 - £70 online..

So £150 + £70 + £100 fitting = £330-£350 max.
Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by NovalutionGSi
best time to mate! 106s are nasty to repair! hence why my other half chop'd hers in cause the Rear Axle was knocking!


One i'd feel like a cnut selling a bodged car, 2, if i do all this work it'll be done properly so why sell it when it has a 20k mile warantee?
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
you can pick up a 2nd hand box for £150-£200 and get it fitted by a friendly mechanic for £100 or less.

2nd hand box with like sub 30,000 miles.

I bought a 14,000 mile gearbox for only £180.

I've also got a spare in my garage incase I need it in the future

Why do you need a new clutch? - Valeo is best clutch to get and that'll be about £60 - £70 online..

So £150 + £70 + £100 fitting = £330-£350 max.


Fancy doing a deal on the box?
Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 14:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
clutch is slipping after changing the gearbox oil. apperently thats the seals in the box or bearings have gone.
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob H
They're ok if you drive them easy, but if you give them stick, they seem to turn into candyfloss.


Not given it too much, but then it's done 47k of which i've had it 2.5k of those!
Hammer
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6th Mar 07 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
u2u Cupra Steve he usually knows most things or has a friend that does.
Paul_J
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6th Mar 07 at 14:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would be easier for you to look on ebay / Saxo Sports Club / PGAC / Rallye Register / French Sports Club / Sax Perience etc...

Saxo VTS / 106 Gti boxes are the same.

VTR boxes are longer (shit)...

XSi boxes are closer, as are rallye boxes (probably also shit for everyday).
Paul_J
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6th Mar 07 at 14:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
http://www.saxosportsclub.com/index.php?name=Pkads&mode=view_item&id=2021

£200 o.n.o

http://www.saxosportsclub.com/index.php?name=Pkads&mode=view_item&id=1806

£180 o.n.o
Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 14:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cheers paul.
Paul_J
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I'd sell you my spare, but I can't guarentee the internals condition... The guy who sold it to me was a cunt and gave me a box which couldn't be mounted to my car!

I was forced to buy a recon box for a lot of money (ripped off) and that is now on my car.

Since then the spare box has been fixed to fit a 106 gti (as one of the mounting points was damaged before), but obviously I've not fitted it. The bloke ensures me it was 23k and mint condition, but who knows lol.

I guess I'll find out when I need to swap the boxes over.

Although it is tempting when I've seen a gearbox with Quaife Diff for sale for about £560 to sell my box for £200 and thus it'd only be another £360 to get the quaife box
Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 14:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not needed, mines relatively std, and the engine will probably stay that way now.
Rob H
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6th Mar 07 at 14:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
What actually goes on them? Can you not get parts to replace them?
Paul_J
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6th Mar 07 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
to take the box apart or get someone else to do it will cost you more than a 2nd hand box.

plus parts for internally NEW are expensive.

A NEW gearbox from pug is more than a NEW engine.

Gearbox = £1500, engine is around £1100.
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there is one bearing in that box that regularly fails lets face it its only an 1100 metro gearbox.

You could have a set of bearing in the box with a new clutch fitted for £500 better than a secondhand box!
Cupra Steve
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6th Mar 07 at 19:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Fuck it, i'm buying the recon box n clutch, 20k miles warantee and keeping it.

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