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gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 10:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

First past the post system or Proportional Representation...


Discuss.

[Edited on 26-01-2007 by gianluigi]
Sara
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26th Jan 07 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Are u on about ur 'reinsurance' crap again?
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26th Jan 07 at 11:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just posting in here because I felt sorry for you.
Sara
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quote:
Originally posted by --Dave--
Just posting in here because I felt sorry for you.


A ha! Beat u in the nick of time

gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's political pish TBQH
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quote:
Originally posted by Sara
quote:
Originally posted by --Dave--
Just posting in here because I felt sorry for you.


A ha! Beat u in the nick of time




Sara
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26th Jan 07 at 11:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
It's political pish TBQH


Is that you in your avatar?
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No one up for some knowledgeable and educated chatter then? I thought that's what most people in this forum were into?
Cosmo
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26th Jan 07 at 11:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
It's political pish TBQH


im guessing not italian political pish, as that would simply be a conversation about bribes and murders
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Sara
quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
It's political pish TBQH


Is that you in your avatar?


yes, celebrating a goal with my manager trevor reid, after andy b scored a goal to put us 2-0 up in the Suffolk Sunday Trophy cup match against Mount Pleasent FC
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
It's political pish TBQH


im guessing not italian political pish, as that would simply be a conversation about bribes and murders

its about the british system. someone mentioned on another forum people who voted labour are tossers, but if Proportional Representation was in place, conservatives would have won easy, and the lib dems would have had a shout also....is this good or bad?
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roportional representation (sometimes referred to as full representation, or PR), is a category of electoral formula aiming at a close match between the percentage of votes that groups of candidates (grouped by a certain measure) obtain in elections and the percentage of seats they receive (usually in legislative assemblies). It is often contrasted to plurality voting systems, where disproportional seat distribution results from the division of voters into multiple electoral districts, especially "winner takes all" plurality (FPTP) districts.

Various forms of proportional representation exist, such as party-list proportional representation, where the above-mentioned groups correspond directly with candidate lists as usually given by political parties. Within this form a further distinction can be made depending on whether or not a voter can influence the election of candidates within a party list (open list and closed list respectively). Another kind of electoral system covered with the term proportional representation is the single transferable vote (STV), which, in turn, does not depend on the existence of political parties (and where the abovementioned "measure of grouping" is entirely left up to the voters themselves) In Australia they have adopted what is referred to as above-the-line voting where candidates belonging to registered political parties are grouped together on the ballot paper with the voter provided with the option of "group voting" a semi-open party list/individual candidate system.

There are also electoral systems, single non-transferable vote (SNTV) and cumulative voting, all which offer a variant form of proportional representation. These systems are not true proportional representation, however. They are truly minority representation systems where as many different parties as there are seats should be elected if everyone votes honestly, but often major parties will split their votes in order to make it proportional. Also, with small two or three member districts such systems often give similar results as proportional systems.
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26th Jan 07 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
quote:
Originally posted by Sara
quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
It's political pish TBQH


Is that you in your avatar?


yes, celebrating a goal with my manager trevor reid, after andy b scored a goal to put us 2-0 up in the Suffolk Sunday Trophy cup match against Mount Pleasent FC


this made me chortle slightly
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26th Jan 07 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

copying shit from the internet doesn't count Cosmotron
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanks cosmo, but TBF, the way some people go on about how educated they are over people who type "shorthand" on here, i think they should know what PR and FPTP systems are but cheers anyway dude
Cosmo
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26th Jan 07 at 11:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that was all off the top of my head....I write for Wikipedia didnt you know
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I write for wikipedia too!
Cosmo
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26th Jan 07 at 11:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by gianluigi
I write for wikipedia too!


Wiki: How to pretend to be Italian, written by Gianluigi (aka Clive)

gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No, not that one. The one i did write got deleted i think...well it's not there now.
CorsAsh
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26th Jan 07 at 11:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How ironic that you spelt "intellectual" incorrectly.
gianluigi
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26th Jan 07 at 11:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

someone finally noticed
Jamie Walby
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_Allan_
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26th Jan 07 at 13:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TBH I just came here to read a classic ironic thread
Scotty_B
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26th Jan 07 at 13:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Jesus I thought I went back 11 years to a Modern Studies class.

[Edited on 26-01-2007 by CorSRi_BT]

 
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