James
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I am going to get a set of decks soon as I have been playing around with mixing software on my comp for a few years now.
Few questions:
- CD or Vinyl
- With CDs, do you play from albums? Or buy CD singles
- Will I be able to get a decent set up for around £500?
- Any other advice?
Cheers,
James
[Edited on 01-01-2007 by James]
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Aaron
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Look in to Vinyl emulation
Google Final Scratch, Serato Scratch live and PCDJ Scratch (i use this one)
To use this technology you have two conventional decks with time coded vinyl which controls an mp3 on the laptop/computer connected to your decks.
Amazing technology that lets you manipulate an mp3 as if it was a normal vinyl record. You can also put a normal vinyl record on the deck and play it through the software
Mazin
[Edited on 01-01-2007 by Aj.]
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James
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Sounds interesting, but I was in a club in Tenerife where a DJ used a computer and it crashed 
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Aaron
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oh and i'd buy music onine from sites such as www.beatport.com and www.djdownload.com 
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Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by James
Sounds interesting, but I was in a club in Tenerife where a DJ used a computer and it crashed
Yeah that is the danger of this technology. I've heard horror stories about when Sasha's Mac Book crashed when he was doing a live performamce with Ableton Live
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James
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hhmm.
Does look cool though, and I guess it would be cheaper in the long run because I would just use limewire TBH
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Aaron
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Yeah that was one of the reasons i got it..and because it was the newest technology at the time. But if you do get really into Dj'ing you'll beign to apprecieate digital music quality
Most of the tracks downloaded fro P2P are a maximum of 192Kb usually...tracks bought from the two i mentioned above are 320 (the highest possible)
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Aaron
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http://www.decks.co.uk
My tip is buy as much as you can afford. Usually with Dj'ing equipment you get what you pay for.
Top end Stanton Decks are amazing as are Technics 1200/1210 Mk2
eBay is your friend for some technics decks...they go for about £350 these days
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James
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Yeah I guess, well now I dont know what to do
What would I need to buy to set this up.
- PCDJ Scratch or similar
- Vinyl Decks
- Already got a pretty shit hot computer
Anything else?
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Aaron
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PCDJ Scratch + ASIO Sound Card = £200 ish
Technics 1200/1210 = £400
Mixer = £120 ish
Oh and some headphones...Sennheiser HD 205 = £30 from PC World (Bargin)
Then a stack of Mp3'z to play with.
This is only my opinion of course because the system has worked so well for me.
CD Mixers are also very good...i think old skool dj'ing with just vinyl isnt the route to take because u'd be paying £7 per record
[Edited on 01-01-2007 by Aj.]
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Shelly
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Aj knows what he's on about, hes really good, got his mixes in the car!!
http://www.musicv2.com/artist/aj_  
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MarkM
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I would go down the CD route...
Get yourself 2 Pioneer CDJs and a decent mixer...master that then move onto the computer software mixing...
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mk4_astra
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i have 2 stanton st-150 decks and an allen and heath xone 32 mixer for sale, all excellent condition, can post some pics up aswell if your interested.
400 quid and there yours, check www.decks.co.uk to see how much this stuff would normally set you back
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Jonny P
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if you are going into vinyl decks, (which IMO you shouldn't do now a days unless you can afford to buy 3-4 vinyls a week), then get technics 1210's or a like THE BEST.
If you are getting into CDJs then IF you can afford it get Pionner CDJ's. Pioneer CDJ 800s are top quality. However, the price tag is hefty! i couldnt afford them so i bought Numark Axis 9's and i use them im clubs where i DJ and i must say, they are great.
Also, spend as much as you can on ur decks, and not much on your mixer. Your decks will last you longer. so if u get dead expensive decks and get a cheap mixer you can always replace the mixer at a later date
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Carl
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agreed go cd's. Don't listen to people who spout nonsense about "you arn't a real dj is you use cd's, they are just deluded! Surely it's more about the music you play that the format its recorded on!!
Thats my view anyhow and to behonest the techniques are very similiar. The pro's of the amount of tracks availlable for cd's is never going to be arguable.
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K3 VMU
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dont go cds, vinyl ALL the way,for £500 u might be able to et a good 2nd hand setup, but i would recomend technics
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jammo20
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my bro has been doing it for years best bet is to get set of 1210's if you can afford as if they go wrong parts and repaiir is easy and clubs and bars he does normally have same gear but just differnt mixer.his set up now is a pair of 1210s a shdx1200 technics mixer and a pioneer cdj800 cd deck and some mad headphones
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jammo20
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his switches between mixing using 1 normal deck and then a pair he said the main reason for cd deck is due to the amount of tunes you can get way before vinyl . hes ranting on that most clubs now dont have either all done on comp using mp3 or pre recorded!
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Laney
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Vinyl Emulation.
Then it means you can still dig crates and play proper vinyl too
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Gary
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
agreed go cd's. Don't listen to people who spout nonsense about "you arn't a real dj is you use cd's, they are just deluded! Surely it's more about the music you play that the format its recorded on!!
Thats my view anyhow and to behonest the techniques are very similiar. The pro's of the amount of tracks availlable for cd's is never going to be arguable.
Agreed. Theres nothing you can do with vinyl that you cant do with CDs. And you can carry 100's more tunes about with you.
Was runnig DJ Show North with Disco Technology last year and dennon(i think) had thier top CD decks. Few lads were having a bit of a scratching contest and they sounded wicked. The scratching emulator(or whatever its called) in CD decks is that good you cant tell the difference.
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James
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Sorry to dig this up - just been looking for PCDJ Scratch - have PCDJ stopped doing it?
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Jonny P
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still not bought decks then i take it haha
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James
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Nope lol - looking into it now.
Looking into DACs on the PCDJ Website - know much about them?
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taylorboosh
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TECHNICS 1210s
mk5 g if you can afford them. These are 1 of the best on the market. IMO you should start with basics and work up, this way it is your own skill and not that of a pc
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Aaron
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James, i'm selling my entire vinyl emulation setup soon.
Under the cloth you have the computer and soundcard that drives it all.
I'm selling everything, including:
2x Stanton STR-8 100 Decks - £300
Stanton M.304 Mixer - £120
Sennheiser HD212Pro Headphones - £35
Wooden Deck Stand - £120
Computer - £200
15" Monitor - £90
PCDJ Scratch Software and Licence key - £100
Maya 44 ASIO Sound Card - £95
Keyboard & Mouse - £10
1 Self Amp'd speaker (very good sound quality and volume) - £75
I was going to stick it all on eBay when i get back from snowboarding i a few weeks.
Edit - I'll also throw in the music i bought (Trance, all 320kb Mp3's bought from www.beatport.com) - £225 (approx)
Edit - I've put the price down that i paid for each item.
[Edited on 17-01-2008 by Aaron]
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