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Adam_B
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If you were looking to buy one what are the common faults and what goes wrong on these? Do they have a problem with the chassis like older elises?

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roofs leak - turbo roof seals fix this iirc
Glue from body to chassis, comes unglued

[Edited on 19-12-2006 by jr]
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no idea but they are stonking cars
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quote:
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Glue from body to chassis, comes unglued



that doesnt sound good, warranty/recall job?
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look for signs of dampness in the cabin as a pointer for leaky roofs

Service book for the amount of times the brakes have been changed as a pointer for howmany times its been ragged round a track
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quote:
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quote:
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Glue from body to chassis, comes unglued



that doesnt sound good, warranty/recall job?


i would have thought so if in warrenty, read about it before, only a few cases from what ive read though
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how and where does it come unglued??
Ojc
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Can get a new one for 18995
Daimo B
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www.vx220.org

Or speak to Jule S on here as he's got one.

Good cars, great handlers, tail happy if your heavy footed and will easily spin you round. Great up to about 110 odd when the shape of it hits a brick wall, it'll still go onto about 140 ish i think (turbo).

NA, really, don't bother, ate them in the astra, if your looking at one only go for the turbo. I think u'd be dissapointed with the NA performance.
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Have a read on vx220 as said.

Don't listen to the don't buy an NA comment as its rubbish.

The turbo is a monster in straight lines but the NA isn't just about going fast in a straight line.

If you can drive properly and don't use the throttle as an on off button you sholuldn't be doing any spinning if you don't wnat to.

There are a good few bargains about just now because of the time of year.

Only other thing I was worried about was the practicality.

If you have another car thats not a problem though.
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I'm sure the drive is more satisfying than the Astra even if straight line performance is 100bhp down.
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got me thinking.

dunno if i can afford it thou
Adam-D
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nope like hell can i afford one
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Can get one for 10k just now.

Can get a cat d for a bit cheaper or a cat d turbo for a bit over 12.
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exactly, i cant afford that, i can afford half. so not even close even if i sold the sport and the van and saved up for a year id struggle to get one.
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i got my na in february and have used it everyday, the performance is excellent as it only weighs something like 700 kg's. only bad point is in winter the heater doesn't work to well and the locks freeze up. got the turbo seals fitted under warranty and doesn't tleak at all now. i love it


http://www.lemass.co.uk/ for all your automotive/bodyshop needs
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Ive had mine 4 years now

As said before...go to

http://www.vx220.org.uk

If you CBA i'll answer pretty much anything you want to know
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
NA, really, don't bother, ate them in the astra, if your looking at one only go for the turbo. I think u'd be dissapointed with the NA performance.


After a while you begin to understand why you annoy so many people on this board.

The na is 0-60 in under 6 seconds and is based on one of the best track chassis ever built only with a higher powered engine taking it round that track.

Im sure Jules S would back up the na is no slouch? oh and the turbo is good for 150+
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On a very twisty circuit the VX NA would probably keep up with an Astra VXR.

However, he's right...on 'most' circuits the VXR would walk away TBH...100+bhp does that sort of thing

There wouldn't be much inbetween an Astra VXR and a VXT though...the VXT would on paper (top gear times) be faster, but I doubt any owners would push their own cars on track at the same time hard enough to find out
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
If you were looking to buy one what are the common faults and what goes wrong on these? Do they have a problem with the chassis like older elises?




engine/gearbox mounts - when people cane the crap out of em
rattle's! windows, dash
heater controls - cables break
starter buttons stick
there are a few recalls - alloy wheels! and some others
main probles is rattles!
but engines are good - nothing seems to go wrong

the 2.0 turbos is 100x better than the 2.2,
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Originally posted by warren.g
engine/gearbox mounts - when people cane the crap out of em
rattle's! windows, dash
heater controls - cables break
starter buttons stick
there are a few recalls - alloy wheels! and some others
main probles is rattles!
but engines are good - nothing seems to go wrong

the 2.0 turbos is 100x better than the 2.2,


Just to straighten out a few things on that post

Engine/gearbox mounts...the top engine mounts go at around 30-40k, any comment about ragging is BS. The bottom mounts going is an extreme rarity.....although it has been related to track work. GB mounts going is near unheard of.

My car doesn't rattle whatsoever...if they do (its been known for sure) you simply track it down and tighten it up. More likely to be stuff 'lost' under the seats.

the heater cable only break if they are not lubed...heaters can be shite though. But there s a cure if you are hands on

Starter buttons dont stick.

Recalls:- ABS module, wheels, vaccuum hose, and some others...but are subject to the VIN

Mine doesn't rattle

VXT engine seems more vulnerable than the NA.....mainly due to the timing belt tensioner shredding the belt (IIRC)

VXT 100% better than an NA?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
There wouldn't be much inbetween an Astra VXR and a VXT though...the VXT would on paper (top gear times) be faster, but I doubt any owners would push their own cars on track at the same time hard enough to find out


a standard vxt would blow a standard vxr away on a track surely
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules S
There wouldn't be much inbetween an Astra VXR and a VXT though...the VXT would on paper (top gear times) be faster, but I doubt any owners would push their own cars on track at the same time hard enough to find out


a standard vxt would blow a standard vxr away on a track surely


Alone on a track yes.

But we dont time such things

On track at the same time?

A VXT would probably be quicker...whether the astra VXR driver would indicate over for a pass would be another matter
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i got up early the other day and took the scenic route to work, someone in a vx220 did the same so i was following for a bit. It was just a nice quick pace, not balls out or anything, just right.

The VX220 could put the power down so much quicker coming out of corners than me, i even had my suspesion on super track nutter rock bastard hard After about a 10 min spirited drive the vx slowed down and turned off, i decided i think i might need one.

Been reading on vx220.org and i like what i read in the seeimingly very honest buyers guide, its similar to an elise, but better looking and without a shitty rover engine. It can be not ideal as a comfy daily driver, quite stiff and noisy. sounds good to me
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
NA, really, don't bother, ate them in the astra, if your looking at one only go for the turbo. I think u'd be dissapointed with the NA performance.


i do alright on track with a 150bhp shopping trolley.

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