corsasport.co.uk
  Not logged in [Login - Register]  
You Are Not Registered Or Not Logged In  

Corsa Sport » Message Board » Off Day » a question my boss asked me today.... (about swimming)


New Topic
New Poll 		  Subscribe | Add to Favourites

You are not logged in and may not post or reply to messages. Please log in or create a new account or mail us about fixing an existing one - register@corsasport.co.uk

There are also many more features available when you are logged in such as private messages, buddy list, location services, post search and more.


Author a question my boss asked me today.... (about swimming)
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
why is front stroke faster than backstroke?

I want to be able to find expert explanation so i can tell him to stfu

anyone fancy helping?
LeeM
Member
Registered: 26th Sep 05
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 17:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
its not necesarily true is it? depends on technique?
Joe
Member
Registered: 20th Jun 04
Location: Hesketh Bank, Lancashire
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 18:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Because you can get a lot more force, pull alot more water past and your kicks are more effective going front crawl.
AdZ9
Member
Registered: 14th Apr 06
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
Because you can get a lot more force, pull alot more water past and your kicks are more effective going front crawl.
MatthewR
Member
Registered: 21st Oct 02
Location: Rickmansworth
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 18:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
coz u can see where ur going???????????
Lawrah
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 25th Dec 04
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 18:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
coz u can see where ur going???????????


Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 20:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lee_wee
its not necesarily true is it? depends on technique?


judging by world record time, where the technique is spot on you cant critisize the technique then
Liam
Member
Registered: 19th Jan 06
Location: Stafford
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 20:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
coz u can see where ur going???????????


Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 20:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
Because you can get a lot more force, pull alot more water past and your kicks are more effective going front crawl.


Kicks wont be no more effective as its the same kick,

I believe that with front crawl you're able to use most of your upper body muscles for pulling through the water and its more of a natural Possition but he wont have it, he thinks its do do with your arm going out of the body's line...
mattk
Member
Registered: 27th Feb 06
Location: St. Helens
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 20:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
tell him to G.T.F

[Edited on 15-12-2006 by mattk]
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
oh I will gladly...

but it'd mean more to me if i could find hard evidance that he is wrong and im right
Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the kick is different. the kick on your back does not displace as much as on the front.

with the arms, on the backstroke, they don't bend, so you can't get as much power behind the pull, as well as your hands being the wrong way round...
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If your technique is correct the front and back stroke involves a pull and push motion! and the arm does bend as you bring your arm in towards your body in back stroke...

all this bullshit just becasue he asked me if id like to do a swimming teachers course
Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:13   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
it doesnt bend as much as it can on front crawl.
Robin
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 7th Jan 04
Location: Northants Drives: Clio 182 Cup
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_crawl

read that.
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
robin you're a dear! printing it off as we speak
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 21:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
btw!i will be more than happy to accept any more hard evidance that its more to do with body position and ease of stroke rather than streamlining...

cant wait to show him these
Ste
Premium Member

Avatar

Registered: 5th Mar 03
Location: Taif, Saudi Arabia
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 23:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
from wiki

Speed and ergonomics

Backstroke is the second slowest stroke after breaststroke. The maximum swimming speed is around 1.84 meter per second. Due to its position on the back, backstroke uses different muscles in the upper body than other styles.

I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
jamied
Member
Registered: 27th Oct 03
Location: Marbella,Spain Drives: C63
User status: Offline
15th Dec 06 at 23:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
chacha.com gave me this
http://users.rowan.edu/~fischm68/swimming_index.html
Andy Stocker
Member
Registered: 31st Aug 00
Location: Herts Drives: Porsche 911
User status: Offline
16th Dec 06 at 11:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You get more pull from the arms on front crawl whereas on backstroke the arms only pull down the sides of the body unlike frontcrawl where they travel under & down the length of the body.
As for the kick backstroke leg kick your feet only come to the surface of the water & don't kick quite as deep as the kick on front crawl
Andy Stocker
Member
Registered: 31st Aug 00
Location: Herts Drives: Porsche 911
User status: Offline
16th Dec 06 at 11:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/swimming/4227472.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/swimming/4223850.stm
Jas
Member
Registered: 13th Oct 04
Location: Mid Wales
User status: Offline
16th Dec 06 at 21:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cheers for this people, ive been printing it all off and leaving on his desk for when he comes in on sunday morning

 
New Topic
New Poll

Corsa Sport » Message Board » Off Day » a question my boss asked me today.... (about swimming) 24 database queries in 0.0244341 seconds