WATSON
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Looking to upgrade the forum that i run on my website, Now i like the layout of corsasport so maybe Ian could help out with name ect
Been looking into vBulletin is £91.00 (Owned License) 
Stick of phpBB so really want change to something else
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Sam
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Nothing wrong with phpBB?
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Steve
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no there isnt im guessing you just dont really know how to modify it etc.
check out http://www.vagweb.co.uk/forums for some modding ideas
my thoughts are basically if it doesnt have it then just make it.
vbulletin is crap i wouldnt even use it if it were free
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
vbulletin is crap i wouldnt even use it if it were free
This is untrue. In what way is it crap exactly?
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Steve
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overloaded and bloated
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Steve
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plus you have to pay, i shudder to think of the amount of DB it queries it makes in just one page load
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Neil
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How so?
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Steve
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too many DB queries going on,too much DHTML crap aswell. forums i use that are vbulletin are noticably slower
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
plus you have to pay, i shudder to think of the amount of DB it queries it makes in just one page load
Probably around the same as phpbb?
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Steve
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no where near, have you seen the amount of pointless crap that is loaded on vbulletin page refresh? especially in the actually thread displays themselves
also phpbb uses no DHTML whatsover 
[Edited on 14-12-2006 by Steve]
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
too many DB queries going on,too much DHTML crap aswell. forums i use that are vbulletin are noticably slower
Possibly just the hosting.. You can disable any dhtml crap also.
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John
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Steve is correct, vbulletin forums are slower than any other type of forum I use.
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
no where near, have you seen the amount of pointless crap that is loaded on vbulletin page refresh? especially in the actually thread displays themselves
also phpbb uses no DHTML whatsover
[Edited on 14-12-2006 by Steve]
Like what exactly? I have worked with vBulletin for years.  to be honest, I usually get rid of stuff like thread preview text etc..
[Edited on 14-12-2006 by NeilM]
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Steve
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no its not the hosting they are all slow.
well maybe to some not considered slow, but slow(er)
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Steve
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a forum i use loads all this on one post and this is just in one menu bar, this isnt taking into account the posts and other normal stuff you see
Show Prinatable version
Email this page
Subscribe to this thread
Search this thread
Advanced Search
Rate Thread
Display Modes
Linear
Hybrid
etc etc all requiring DB queries, most of this isnt loaded in phpbb
I like things not to be there, and until i program them to be there then they dont exist
[Edited on 14-12-2006 by Steve]
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Steve
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Then you click on a username and you get some dhtml crap with more options
View public profile
Send private message to x
Find more posts by x
Add x to your buddylist
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Neil
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I like vBulletin. Like the way it works, just preference really. I also find the ones I have worked on, very quick. Not noticably slower than Vagweb, anyway.
I do find, however, that a lot of vBulletin's are bloated with addons and hacks that add a lot of unecessary queries. But this is nothing to do with vBulletin.
Its a matter of opinion really, just don't see how someone can blind outright say its crap.
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Steve
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that just my preference like you have yours its crap to me etc etc
[Edited on 14-12-2006 by Steve]
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
a forum i use loads all this on one post and this is just in one menu bar, this isnt taking into account the posts and other normal stuff you see
Show Prinatable version - just a bit of html, no db query
Email this page - just a bit of html, no db query
Subscribe to this thread - just a bit of html, no db query
Search this thread - just a bit of html, no db query
Advanced Search - just a bit of html, no db query
Rate Thread
Display Modes - just a bit of html, no db query
Linear - just a bit of html, no db query
Hybrid - just a bit of html, no db query
These are all just links, the db queries are on the next page..
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
etc etc all requiring DB queries, most of this isnt loaded in phpbb
I like things not to be there, and until i program them to be there then they dont exist
How about they're there and you can easily remove stuff with a check box?
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Neil
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
Then you click on a username and you get some dhtml crap with more options
View public profile
Send private message to x
Find more posts by x
Add x to your buddylist
This annoys me.. I remove it.. lol.
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Neil
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To the person who started the thread, I would use phpbb, cuz its free.. lol. But, vBulletin isn't crap.
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by NeilM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
a forum i use loads all this on one post and this is just in one menu bar, this isnt taking into account the posts and other normal stuff you see
Show Prinatable version - just a bit of html, no db query
Email this page - just a bit of html, no db query
Subscribe to this thread - just a bit of html, no db query
Search this thread - just a bit of html, no db query
Advanced Search - just a bit of html, no db query
Rate Thread
Display Modes - just a bit of html, no db query
Linear - just a bit of html, no db query
Hybrid - just a bit of html, no db query
These are all just links, the db queries are on the next page..
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
etc etc all requiring DB queries, most of this isnt loaded in phpbb
I like things not to be there, and until i program them to be there then they dont exist
How about they're there and you can easily remove stuff with a check box?
i bet ya it still does the db queries where it would do normally just doesnt display the stuff if the options not ticked
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WATSON
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
no there isnt im guessing you just dont really know how to modify it etc.
check out http://www.vagweb.co.uk/forums for some modding ideas
my thoughts are basically if it doesnt have it then just make it.
vbulletin is crap i wouldnt even use it if it were free
That’s true and I don’t have the knowledge to do so as well  I though VB would be easy to use as it looks easy 
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MarkPW
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vB is a decent piece of forum software - it's breeze to use and develop with. It's not bloated, nor is it slow. You have to bare in mind that the speed of your forum really depends on it's environment.
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WATSON
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Also steve VAG forum looks 
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