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mav
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Went to the Scottish Mondeo Forums RR day at Falkland Performance centre.

Had a bit of a chat with Kevin and told him about last weeks results at Dastek..

Kevins rollers are usually spot on, 3 times the T4 has been on there now...

Last weeks at Dastek


Something strange there losing 25bhp from the standard 200???
175.1bhp and 181.0lbf.ft torque, low reading...

Car feels good on the road no real flat spots and deffo doesn't feel 25bhp down..

Kevin gave the car a run today and result.


Which is more like it still 4 bhp but not bad...

196BHp and 215.6lbf.ft torque..

Thats the kind of result I was expecting....

Opinions etc...

Think something went wrong at Dastek last week on my run...

Funny thing at Dastek when I came off the rollers the ABS / traction control light wasn't on like usually happens once I come off..All other times car has been on the rollers the ABS/Traction control light has been on except at Dastek????

anyway happy bunny again

[Edited on 18-11-2006 by mav]

[Edited on 18-11-2006 by mav]
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what the hell happened at 4k rpm
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impressive
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Usually is up and down spikey like that
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dude... the results are practically the same!!!

Look at the wheel power!

and erm... i hope the oil temp wasnt 13deg
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but what does this prove?

a) dastek rollers are fubarred
b) Falkland performance rollers are fubarred


So its abit of a given fact that your DV/aircone is causing a loss?
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you actually got more power at dastek!!!
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Yeah your right wheels results the same so why is the fly so different?
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Dastek wheels power = 148.5 and fly 175.1
Falkland wheel power = 148.3 and fly 196

why
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I never really looked at the power at the wheels
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both graphs have something dodgy going on at 4k

wheel readouts can differ depending on the gear they were done in, but the fly is based on the drag curve which is exponential to the wheel reading so will be correct whatever the gear
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
but what does this prove?

a) dastek rollers are fubarred
b) Falkland performance rollers are fubarred


So its abit of a given fact that your DV/aircone is causing a loss?


well it was 199 last time so yeah 1-2 Bhp loss...
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are you going to remove the bits you have put on now Mav?
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
both graphs have something dodgy going on at 4k

wheel readouts can differ depending on the gear they were done in, but the fly is based on the drag curve which is exponential to the wheel reading so will be correct whatever the gear
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Dv might get removed...
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..and if your experiencing a loss of power id check the maf first
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Phone Paul at Dastek (think its Paul) - he is very good at detailing why etc.

I'll go dig up a thread he posted on SIDC expalining some results.... its a long thread.

Dastek rollers do tend to be more conservative too.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
both graphs have something dodgy going on at 4k

wheel readouts can differ depending on the gear they were done in, but the fly is based on the drag curve which is exponential to the wheel reading so will be correct whatever the gear


was the same last time at 4k Steve, 4 times on the rollers and there is always that curve...??? Trait of the engine?
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quote:
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..and if your experiencing a loss of power id check the maf first


No loss of power on road....Feels fine.
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Phone Paul at Dastek (think its Paul) - he is very good at detailing why etc.

I'll go dig up a thread he posted on SIDC expalining some results.... its a long thread.

Dastek rollers do tend to be more conservative too.


cheers Adam...Might give Paul a phone and ask..
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how do you know? have you compared it to one you know is running 200bhp?
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Mine got 199.8 last time and feels the same.
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you say that there is no flat spots, but the graph shows there is a clear flat spot at 4k, did you get this before you fitted the kn?
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Gerry at dastek
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yeah...same last twice on the rollers at about 4k.....

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