williamsvts
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is this more hassel than its worth or worth doing?
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Greg_M
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depends how much money you've got
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jamesvalver
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its been done in a manta i believe
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williamsvts
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not alot of money, but have skills and tools and knowledge available in bucket loads.
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ed
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No need to have TB's on a big powered 2.0 Vauxh engine. The manifolds can flow more air for more BHP than the engine can take without mega bucks being spent on it.
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williamsvts
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need information on what is needed and problems that have been had. or is this to technical and do i need to go on mig web lol only jokin guys
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Robin
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basically, what you'll actually be building, is an LET with TBs.
the compression ratio on an XE would be too high to cope with a turbo.
problem is, TBs work best with high compression, turbos destroy high compression engines.
it will work, but you'd get just as much power from a well built LET, it'd also cost less, and negate the need for hours of mapping, which you'd need with TBs.
also, TBd and turbod engines take even longer to map, as the part throttle, on boost set up is a lot harder
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ed
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Starkmotorsport has done this to his car, though I think it started out life as a LET...
You need the low compression pistons. You need to modify the block to allow for the oil return pipe to be fitted which is a simple enough job. You need the new exhaust manifold and the turbo, Then you need to work out the piping. As the car is forced induction you don't need trumpets so you just need to fabricate some kind of plenum to go to the tb's...
Can see what I mean here:
Then you need the management sorted to allow the turbo to work.
Erm, other shit to think about is upgrading the rods if the engine is going to be running big power. I can't remember how much the XE crank differs from the LET crank, I have a fewwling the LET crank is slightly lighter, though I'm not sure. The standard rods are all the same though.
Oh yea, your F16 or F20 gearbox will last about 100 miles before it blows up, you will need an F28 at some stage...
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williamsvts
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this is my story then, i allready have a xe on tb's running omex 600 management, it has uprated rods, bolts, and forged pistons. it got sent away and came back with less compression than when it went away with a bent valve which i really dont understand. so i thought i might as well make the most of the low compression and turbo the fucker
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BeArDy
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Not really cost effective mate. Putting TB on a LET motor would be the way.
BUT reading what you have said, i would do it mate.
you have 85% of the parts already, could have a high powered Turbo engine out off it
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Starkmotorsport
 sorry just made my laught
Starkie is off here ask him, it had a few problems but nothing money can not sort out 
THE DADDY
Like of same on a C16XE
 
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SportBoy
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wouldnt of thought there would be much need for it unless your after 400 bhp + as i think thats about the limit on the standard inlet manifold .. can look pretty tho  .. alot of carscome from factory with them which just about all of them have a higher standard bhp
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williamsvts
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im like every 1 else after as much power as i can get
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SportBoy
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go for it then alltho personall id just get a new inlet manifold and bigger plenum with 1 big throttlebody cheaper and easier to map iirc
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williamsvts
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true
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
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Originally posted by ed
Starkmotorsport
sorry just made my laught
Starkie is off here ask him, it had a few problems but nothing money can not sort out
Was nearly there, especially as I got the pictures of his engine out of his garage and didn't even realise my mistake
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STEvieXE
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green one is such a mess of pipe and wires etc
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starkie
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steviexe- thats cos i only flung them on for the photo.
car ran well on them only hassle i had was with the idle set screw working loose but that was it and easy overcome. base maps arent really that much of a problem if you have a good plenum chamber as with a turbo thats what it all comes down to
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CorsAsh
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Man of few words, but when he speaks, jesus, do those words sting
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STEvieXE
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by STEvieXE
green one is such a mess of pipe and wires etc
sometimes, things arent done to be flashy and show off. it was starkie testing his ideas out.
ffs, sick of people negative comments about things they just dont understand. dont like it dont comment unless you start to try these things yourself. fuckin idiot.
err yeah i understand wot u are saying but i havent said anything that isnt true and if you are going to the hasslle of spending the money on the parts and doing the work may as well do it as neatly as possible.
havent tried any major engine work but i did alot of my own work to my own xe conversion and helped my mate who did it
and i do work in the motortrade as a panel beater. just believe if a jobs worth doing then...
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Hammer
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
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Originally posted by STEvieXE
green one is such a mess of pipe and wires etc
sometimes, things arent done to be flashy and show off. it was starkie testing his ideas out.
ffs, sick of people negative comments about things they just dont understand. dont like it dont comment unless you start to try these things yourself. fuckin idiot.
drug abuse does not lead to mood swings.
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
drug abuse does not lead to mood swings.
Nope, he's always a cunt
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STEvieXE
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Originally posted by muppetsport
no, you havent said anything that is untrue, yet its totally un-called for. you havent got a clue about what starkie was doing or trying. its not as simple as you might think to make it all neat and tidy. not everyone cares what their cars looklike when trying something out. its about getting it working. which it did.
its negative comments like the one you put up before that force the good, intelligent people that have information worth sharing away from corsasport. because the sight of something different in an engine bay baffles you, all you can say is its untidy.
grow up, do something original yourself.
i think i do know how its not easy to have things neat and tidy and i think i do understand wot starkie was trying to do. as he could simply reply with saying that it was just set up to see if it worked ie no finished. dont take ur obviously shitty mood or day or wotever out on me.
grow up? wot a stupid thing to say
do something original yourself?? ok so i may not be building crazy engines or wotever but ill do anything bodywork wise which is my trade so how about stfu
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STEvieXE
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as fo my comment being uncalled for its nothing that is unusual on corsasport. do people not post things up for opinions?? thats like u saying a f/glass kitted car is rubbish??
exactly the same.
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Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by STEvieXE
dont take ur obviously shitty mood or day or wotever out on me.
He didn't have a very good catch today bless him.
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STEvieXE
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understand the first part of his name now...
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