SetH
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or those in the know?
basically a certain individual that lives here has got himself into a bit of bother with money. apparantly baliffs came round today but he was at work. Also they were eyeing up my impreza, going "hmmmm whos is that then?".
I just wondered if they can take stuff that doesnt belong to him seeing as this is his home?
[Edited on 26-09-2006 by SetH]
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Robin
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Tomas.
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abdus
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i guess they will take stuff from inside the house
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geordiecorsa
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how bad is this going to sound... used to live with someone who owed someone else money, we were told that if items are clearly registered/marked to another name they can't be taken. I'm not sure how legit this is, it maybe just hearsay, as we had post-it notes all over...
He shifted out and we had no bother when the baliffs came knocking and he'd left, they asked if we knew where he'd gone and then left us be.
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K2 GTi
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I read a thing on the net today about dodgy bilifts. Host are dodgy aparently theres a program about it tonight and how they add charges up for no reason to get cash for themselves.
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Robin
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AFAIK, legally, the can only take items proven to belong to the person in debt.
they can't take your car, as its not his.
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K2 GTi
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5377488.stm
there
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Robin
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9 pm, BBC1.
just been advertised.
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SetH
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what if i come home and find my pc, DVD player etc fucking gone 
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Fee
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surely not.....that's like saying they could just go into your neighbours house and pick up their stuff instead!
maybe put a lock on your door tonight just to be safe 
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
what if i come home and find my pc, DVD player etc fucking gone
you can legally get it back. its not his, it can't be taken... if they do, you get it back, no questions asked...
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SetH
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im gonna booby trap my room lol, who leave ojc with a kalashnikov and a tub of lube sitting on my bed.
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Gaz
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Seth,
Just for a security reson i would go dig out as many recipts as you can possibly find for things you own of value that they would be willing to take.
OR
Move some objects until your mate is clear of debt... your log book will prove the impraza is yours from before the baliffs got hold of his/her name
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richardworrall
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there you go, there is a law to say he can only take the debtors belonging, not anything that isnt his, even the police dont know these laws!!!!
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abdus
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watch the programme on BBC now....shocking 
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TNM
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seth: u2u tomas. spoke to him tonite and told him to look at this thread
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Crutey
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Right im not a bailiff but i work in council enforcement, have bailiffs workin for me etc.
Basically if a bailiff attends they will request entry to your proerty which you are not obliged to give.
Once in ur house they will list belongings to the amount of the debt. This is called a levy.
They will then ask you to sign a walking possesion order which states if you do not discarge the debt these good are his. If he has a walking possesion he can demand reentry to your property.
As for cars, a bailiff can uplift a car to discharge a debt without the debtor present.
A bailiff can indeed only take goods from the debtor and no1 elses goods.
In terms of a car a bailiff would PNC a car before uplifting. With regards to goods in a property, they would generally presume goods belong to the debtor until proof is shown otherwise, i suppose being lied to is the nature of their job, if they took ppls word for it they would never get paid.
Generally i have found that the ploice and even solicitors dont really understand the laws surrounding distress, seems to only be ppl that deal with this stuff for a living who know the score.
I believe one of the main points raised by the bbc prog (not seen it yet) was about bailiffs charging for visits they have not made or letters they have not issued.
This i couldnt comment on as im not a bailiff.
The thing you need to bear in mind is that a bailiff gets commision based on what they collect, they are likely to say a lot of things that they cant do in order to get paid.
Im sure things like 'i will come when your not there and kick your door in' etc must get said in order to coerce payment.
And also one thing a lot of ppl seem to forget in documentaries like this etc is that not one person who has to deal with a bailiff is an innocent victim. If they had paid what they should when they should, he would not be knocking on their door.
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charlessurr
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my dad is a bailiff, however he doesnt knock on peoples doors for a TV or a DVD player, hes only does cars, vans, trucks, lorries, plant and mass clear outs of companies etc. Basically, he often tells the people whatever they want to hear to get what he wants. I know it sounds harsh but he deals with a lots nobs. When it comes to cars, he is given a specific item list and he can only take what is on that list, as for your impreza, if it isnt registered in his name then he wont take it, or he cant take it. There is a lot of grey ground surrouding bailiffs, but they are only doing their job, and by the time they have to get involved, i would suspect in most cases the person whos door is being kncocked on has done something to constitute the visit.
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nik
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Program last night showing what is going on was disgusting. Taken stuff from people nothing to do with the debter, making children cry when their parents aren't there, breaking into houses, over charging people by 100s of pounds and pocketing the cash. Bailiffs should never be allowed to be run as a private company, government needs to do something. If one of those cunts came round my house taken things or breaking in (when your not even the debter!) they'd royally have a large knife through them.
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Edd
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on the basis of last nights show i say all bailiffs are cunts
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SetH
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lol nik your a loon 
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TNM
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Seth have you u2u'ed tomas?
He is a high court baliff so he does know what hes doing
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Crutey
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Courts enforcement officers have more powers than the police!
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Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by Crutey
Courts enforcement officers have more powers than the police!
no
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GT4Brody
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
im gonna booby trap my room lol, who leave ojc with a kalashnikov and a tub of lube sitting on my bed.
Now that is scary
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