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Robin
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you only get good gains if you adjust the timing.

Performance ford tested 4 different fuels, and optimax allowed for more advance on the timing, which meant it made something like 37bhp over 95 ron. (that was on a 500 odd bhp cosworth engine though)

but, on a normal map, it wont do anything but cost you 5 p a litre more. (on most cars, like a corsa)

[Edited on 14-09-2006 by robmarriott]
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corsa was a lot smoother with optimax fuel in. imo does make a difference
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not true Rob!!
Robin
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it is in principle Dave, depends on how the ECU works though
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on a std car its all in the head, about improved performance etc
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All cars with a knock sensor will see an improvement.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
on a std car its all in the head, about improved performance etc


then why are there factory-stated differences in power and torque stated in the owners manual for my barina?
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14th Sep 06 at 13:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
there may be a few minor differences in figures, but none that youd actually feel
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quote:
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All cars with a knock sensor will see an improvement.


wether or not it'd be noticeable on your common or garden X14XE is a different matter though.

Its only worth it on a car with a turbo, or a highly strung NA engine, or an engine with an ECU from a car mapped whilst running Super ( )
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I'd say 13bhp was a substantial differance Stcheven.
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but you just said it was a placebo affect? which is a noticed difference "in the brain"?
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quote:
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Its only worth it on a car with a turbo, or a highly strung NA engine, or an engine with an ECU from a car mapped whilst running Super ( )


Yeah, I agree.
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quote:
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I'd say 13bhp was a substantial differance Stcheven.


a normal unmodified car will not get 13bhp marc
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mine manages 7bhp on a standard 1800
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As far as power, i doubt it. Sainsburys 99 RON does the same and it's a damn sight cheaper.



sainsbury's dont do a 99 ron, they do a 97 i know because i use it
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7bhp is almost half of 13 david, and yours is considered a performance orientated engine, the likes of punto 1.2s and corsa 1.4s will get 1 bhp if they are lucky, and cars without knock sensors wont get nothing apart from a kick in the wallet
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
I'd say 13bhp was a substantial differance Stcheven.


a normal unmodified car will not get 13bhp marc


Prodrive Imprezas Stcheven
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my engine is found in vectras and zafiras
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yes prodrive imprezas, not ordinary run of the mill cars
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W

As far as power, i doubt it. Sainsburys 99 RON does the same and it's a damn sight cheaper.



sainsbury's dont do a 99 ron, they do a 97 i know because i use it


also, Tesco 99 got slated by PF, it came 4th out of 4, was beaten by 97 RON esso super, optimax, and bp ultimate (which kills engines)
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BP Ultimate. i wouldnt even drink it myself
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quote:
Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W

As far as power, i doubt it. Sainsburys 99 RON does the same and it's a damn sight cheaper.



sainsbury's dont do a 99 ron, they do a 97 i know because i use it


97 then.
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
quote:
Originally posted by Edd
quote:
Originally posted by Dean_W

As far as power, i doubt it. Sainsburys 99 RON does the same and it's a damn sight cheaper.



sainsbury's dont do a 99 ron, they do a 97 i know because i use it


also, Tesco 99 got slated by PF, it came 4th out of 4, was beaten by 97 RON esso super, optimax, and bp ultimate (which kills engines)


why does it kill engines? i use it a lot due to the lack of shell garages in my area
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Sorry I expected you to read between the lines
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well, it killed brosters 138bhp engine, and about 30 other cars on the forcourt that day.

(it was just a bad tanker of fuel, but i dont use BP now, just incase)

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