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Anyone on here done it? Sounds awesome. I know people will probably say its not as good as it sounds, but two unis ive looked at are working in collaboration with anglesey to provide student track days as part of the course to provide track experience and saloon racing tuition for inexperienced drivers. Aswell as working as part of a formula ford racing team and building a formula student car.
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whic uni's do it?
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Mostly ones around wales, like cardiff, swansea, wrexham...
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isnt this what brad does ???
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I would recomend doing an Automotive Product Design course if you are interested. It's less driving and stuff, but you design Formula Student cars in your second year. Go to work for any car company in your third and design another FS car in your fourth year. You're more likely to get a job at the end of it too...
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Think so Jim, he's off in Portugal at the moment IIRC.
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Though Brad seems to h ave done alright out of his course
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ah but its always who you know at the end of the day addn brad has got very good connections
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Very true Ant
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ah but its always who you know at the end of the day addn brad has got very good connections
Yea, totally. Hard work - and he has put the time in and judging by the ammount of races he goes to he must be enjoying it
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yup ash and waht gets me is no matter how good you are, if you dont know anyone in the design buisness ur fighting a uphill battle.
girl in my class got a superb work experieince at ideo, and how she got it was chatting some bloke up in a bar and shagigng him, shes pretty much sorted for a job now.
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yeah brad seems to work his bollox off im v.jealous as he is doing what he loves. lucky git!!!!
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Originally posted by ed
I would recomend doing an Automotive Product Design course if you are interested. It's less driving and stuff, but you design Formula Student cars in your second year. Go to work for any car company in your third and design another FS car in your fourth year. You're more likely to get a job at the end of it too...

Sounds cool, dont suppose it concerntrates much on the motorsport side. Im hoping to get more motorsport related contacts along my rallying travels. Where abouts can I do this course?
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Brads back here as i spoke to him at brands on Sunday him and the team seem to be doing well
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yup ash and waht gets me is no matter how good you are, if you dont know anyone in the design buisness ur fighting a uphill battle.
girl in my class got a superb work experieince at ideo, and how she got it was chatting some bloke up in a bar and shagigng him, shes pretty much sorted for a job now.


Tell me about it. I've had limited success with the auto design side, more interest from visualisation companies, animators and games companies.

Having said that, I've just made some contacts through a friend and things could work out nicely there, will have to wait and see.
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had a look at the cov website for the graduates, takes me aback a a few familiar faces from when i did the frist year.
altho i dont get that one girl who wanted to put a xe into her mini as her major project?
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Wasn't even an XE, was a 1.6 GTE engine. Was on the Vehicle Design course, so it's more practical engineering.

Best one was Mary Hackney, designed an iron for men... it looked like any other iron and people were spunking over it, just because she'd made an iron for guys.

P.O.S.
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lol what got me was that she has underneath ive never known sum1 so obssesed about vws, a quote from a tutor, lol nufin to do with her projet just random, cosntantly on about her lil lupo she had

thought some of the product design stuff was very poor.
But the car stuff was awesome some well nice work and now its all dispayed in the transport museum it looks so professional


[Edited on 29-08-2006 by antscorsa]
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I didnt bother goin down
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Id hate for any girl to think they can do anything car related better than me
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There's probably lots who can though. It's not about male/female, it's about talent.
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quote:
Originally posted by Butler
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Originally posted by ed
I would recomend doing an Automotive Product Design course if you are interested. It's less driving and stuff, but you design Formula Student cars in your second year. Go to work for any car company in your third and design another FS car in your fourth year. You're more likely to get a job at the end of it too...

Sounds cool, dont suppose it concerntrates much on the motorsport side. Im hoping to get more motorsport related contacts along my rallying travels. Where abouts can I do this course?
You can do APD at Aston, there are car design courses all over the place too, Ash did one at Coventry...
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I know coventry is the best known but probably the hardest to get into, is automotive design technology similiar? I want to concertrate on the design side without the scientific qualifications but hopefully include some engineering. Whatever I do id like to associate with the motorsport side of cars, alot more interest then normal automotive design i think.
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From looking at the courses, the motorsport ones are more to do with how to set up a car and how a car works.

The design ones are how the car looks.

And the engineering based ones are maths and maths only.

It's important to find a course which you can do alright, any design course with engineering it it will be a BSc course. This will have a fair ammount of maths in it which is quite hard work.

Best bet is to try and talk to Brad, I'm doing Auto Product Design, so I only know about that and a little about the Motorsport stuff as I originally was going to do that but changed my mind.
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Id like to talk to Brad if I get the chance.

When I think about it though, everything on a car has to be design, little things on racing cars like spoilers, side skirts, intakes etc all things that have aerodynamic properties, I think a job doing such things would require a designing background. Do universities offer foundation courses on engineering or maths before uptaking such courses?

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