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Author Help, where do i stand? (work)
Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok if someone could take a few mins to read this and advise i'd appreciate it

Last week the girl i run the office with was on holiday and we had the junior helping. My hours were 0730 - 1600 but i ended up working through my lunch and staying on for an hour to help out.

We also work every other saturday, and i agreed to work 2 saturdays in a row because she was on holiday.

She came back into workon Monday but has been signed off work because shes ill and is due back in next monday.

I have a feeling my boss is going to pressurise me into working saturday, but ive worked the last 2 and did about 5/6 hours of unpaid overtime last week. I've told them i cant do it because im running race for life on sunday and richie is in london so the only day ill be able to see him is saturday

What do i do? We used to work untill 1300 on a saturday which we had reduced to 1200 after we nagged our boss

I really don't want to do it because i feel like ive worked non stop and im absolutely nackered. But my contract is vague when it comes to overtime, but surely if ive made plans and stuff i cant just drop it because they have said so

thanks guys
Pablo
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6th Jul 06 at 08:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just say no!!

And get them to pay ur overtime hours too!!

I would!
dna23
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6th Jul 06 at 08:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It really depends on your contract Ally... mine for example has a clause written in that basically says you have to work when we say but that said they are reasonable.

It may be worth just sitting down with your boss and explaining the circumstances. If he/she then decides to be a prick about it it'll be worth looking into your contract in more detail to see how you stand
Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeh pab i know, this is a small company thou and someone has to be in to run the office. Ive been texting the girl i work with and she cant come in, the other lass had plans and so do i.

But here its like, everyone will get shitty with me because i wont drop everything and come into work. They dont understand over the last 10 days i have worked over 90 hours, im fking nackered, i havent seen my boyfriend and im running race for life on sunday

Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know 90 hours over 10 days doesnt sound much but thats 2 saturdays and 2 sundays as well
dna23
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As i said it depends on your contract but i can't see your boss saying no to you working if it's because you need to rest before running Race For Life on sunday due to the fact you've worked 90 hours in the last 10 days....
Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

all my contract says is 'Due to the nature of your position, you may be expected to work such hours as may be required to fulfil the needs of the job'

dna23
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6th Jul 06 at 08:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Same as mine... if your asked to work then realistically you have to - i'm sure you could get real picky with human rights and your union .etc But i think you'd be more beneficial from just telling your boss how you are running Race For Life .etc and see how they go from there..
SetH
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who do you work for? really sounds like a shit ass company tbh.

Id seek legal advise regarding that line in your contract.

Id never work overtime unpaid, infact i get double time
Bart
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6th Jul 06 at 08:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are you on salary or hourly wage?

If your hourly you should deffo be paid. If your salary like me, you dont have to be paid, but if they really want you in, they can agree an overtime rate (which is common).

If you really dont want to do it, tell him you already have plans. if he doesnt understand that, then he's some kind of a cunt and your in the wrong job.

IF you would only do it for a large amount of money, simply ask if if its time and a half or double time.
Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeh, they already know everything but just seems like they are being really off with me.

Dont get me wrong, i love my job, and i get alot of perks so i wouldnt do anything to jeopardise (sp) my position here, but this is the one weekend where i really need to kick back, if i work and run on sunday then im going to be screwed for work next week
abdus
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6th Jul 06 at 08:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get a medical certificate...

no seriously, make the reason you are not working this: ' I have not been paid for my overtime hours, cannot expect to be paid for this one too....Until I get paid for my already worked overtime, I'm not working overtime...'

Tell him this on Friday evening...
Edd
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6th Jul 06 at 08:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

work your contracted hours



he cant make you work more without paying you accordingly
Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Contract states -

Overtime

Your position as a staff employee is not normally subject to payment for overtime worked

Edd
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6th Jul 06 at 08:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he has you over a barrell your conract has been set up so that he can pull these stunts when he feels like it


call in sick the rest of the week
abdus
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6th Jul 06 at 08:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



now this is a different matter...

but is there any place where it states you need to comply with requests to work overtime?

Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 08:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also states under hours of work -

You are required to work such additional hours as may be necessary on order to meet the requirements of the business
Ally
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Ojc
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Ally, sounds like you have a great contract

If I had a contract like that, which basically says you have to work when we tell you even if its outside your contracted hours and you won't get paid for it, I would leave right now, infact pack your desk up and walk away.
abdus
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6th Jul 06 at 08:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

this clause seems unfair imo...was Edd stated, the contract is wrong for you...

Best option: start of diarrhea and vomitting on Friday, continues until Saturday 1pm...then stops at 13: 01 on Saturday...what a miracle: you will be able to run your race

Nobody can check whether you have a diarrhea, well unless they come to the loo with you



[Edited on 06-07-2006 by abdus]
Edd
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6th Jul 06 at 08:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whats your work number? i will phone up saying im from the hospital and i have your tests results and as we feared its AIDS, you break down crying and say that you need to go home. job done
abdus
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Ally
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6th Jul 06 at 09:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thing is, ive been here for 2 years and this has never ever been an issue before.

The company is a good company, we get a big xmas bonus and other bonuses and they really look after us

But when it comes to overtime, and covering people it just seems like one big grey area
abdus
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6th Jul 06 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well, phone up the head office and explain the facts and how unfair it that would be if you were to work tomorrow...

now don't explain why you can't work tomorrow because of Richie
Pablo
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6th Jul 06 at 09:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fcuk 'em IMO

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