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J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:03

im rewiring mine just found out pump voltage is 10volts

corb

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12th Jun 06 at 22:04

quote:
Originally posted by J100RSA
if amal valve is disconected how can it cut boost??

it cant, thats what i said, isnt it?

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:06

it is physicly imposible

ive found a number of faults on my car now which i will be sorting along with the rebuild

corb

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12th Jun 06 at 22:08

i know, cos i had a loose hose on my amal valve a while back, this was the result

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:09

i could make mine do that when totaly standard

Rileysport

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12th Jun 06 at 22:12

quote:
Originally posted by J100RSA
i could make mine do that when totaly standard

i saw it

corb

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12th Jun 06 at 22:12

mine was standard when i did that, was ages ago.

How comes when i sorted the loose pipe it started holding normal boost again?

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:31

when the amal vale pipe is open the waiste gate cant open there for it will boost upto rev limiter and it will just keep on boosting

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:35

do you lot actally understand anything, leave the power too the amalvalve connected but take the vacuum pipe's off, then fit the mbc between the accuator and turbo feed and then try running more then 12psi with the mbc and it will still boost cut due too the standard boost chip in the ecu, obviously if the feed pops off its gonna run silly boost, everyone should know that unless you have a weak accuator then it wont run silly boost with the pipe off but still not a good thing too do.

What i am saying it with/without the amal valve piped and mbc in its place, it will still boost cut anything over 12psi with standard chips.

corb

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12th Jun 06 at 22:46

if the mbc is connected and pipe on the amal valve comes off then it wouldnt make any difference if there was an mbc present or not

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:47

it cant it would only cut boost at what the mbc is set to the ecu cant physicly cut the boost as its not attached to anything electronic when the amal is disconected on the other hand it can cut the fuel/ spark or reard the timing via the map sensor when it gets to 12psi of boost

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:48

the ecu cant open the waist gate as it can when the amal valve is conected

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:48

yes it would, i have had so many c20lets and tried different things and have very good knowledge off them over the last 6 years, shame some people dont want too know the truth though, tbh it dosnt matter too me as im only saying whats right and wrong and it seems you lot cant accept that.

corb

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12th Jun 06 at 22:50

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you're boring me now

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:52

How the fook can the ecu open the waist gate when the amal valve is not conected??the amal valve is what the ecu uses to open the waist gate yes/no?

so if the amal valve is not conected the ecu cant cut boost all it can cut is ignition/fuel

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:53

you bored me with you little knowledge and incorrect facts.

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:53

midland what do you do for a living?

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:54

quote:
Originally posted by J100RSA
How the fook can the ecu open the waist gate when the amal valve is not conected??the amal valve is what the ecu uses to open the waist gate yes/no?

so if the amal valve is not conected the ecu cant cut boost all it can cut is ignition/fuel

1. No

2. Yes it can.

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:55

so what open the waist gate then? appart from the waiste gate solonoid

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:55

quote:
Originally posted by J100RSA
midland what do you do for a living?

Part Mechanic In Spare Time/PC Technician.

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 22:57

you dont need a amal valve too open the wastegate, do a direct vacuum feed from accuator too turbo and it will still boost watever the accuator is set too.

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 22:57

tell me the how the ecu opens the waist gate when the amal is disconected?

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 23:00

i just did. how do you think a external wastegate works, it dont use the ecu, same as when you fit a turbo too a 1.4 8v ect without using management and standard ecu.

midlandvauxhalls

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12th Jun 06 at 23:03

boost cut is ignition/fuel cut off, nothing too do with amal valve.

J100RSA

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12th Jun 06 at 23:10

but your saying the ecu can still cut the boost the only thinkg that can open the waist gate when an mbc is fitted is pressure so the ecu can not cut the boost can it if it thinks there is a problem of if the is over boost the ecu over boost feature it redundant when the amal is disconected the only think the ecu can contole is fuel and ignition

if the ecu detects det via the knock sensor it will protect it self with the amal valve opening the waist gate
if the boost is too high it will open the waist gate yet again via the amal valve to protect its self but if the amal is not present the only way of opening the waist gate is when max boost is achieved and the waist gate opens depending on what the mbc is set so and actuator is set to

[Edited on 13-06-2006 by J100RSA]

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