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Ally
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8th Jun 06 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Seeing as a few of you are abit garden-minded i thought maybe you could help me with mine

We've rennovated the house, now the summers here i want to start on the garden. Its mank and a death trap atm.

You walk out of the kitchen into a little forecourty thing -



then up the 'deathtrap' stairs to this -



I do want to have the old garage ripped down and a nice brick one put there instead (garage = more value to the property) but im abit as to what to do with the rest of it

crappy fence is going and being replaced with a 6 foot one, but i dont have a clue what to do with the rest of it!

Ideas/suggestions anyone?



Essay sorry
Edd
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8th Jun 06 at 10:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just flatten the lot of it and turf it
MatthewR
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Knock it all down, flatten it, turf relay new path and build new garage
Kathryn W
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Re pave the path or put some stones down maybe....

Perhaps some decking at the beginning of the garden infront the house so that you could have table chairs and bbq
Ally
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Flatten the lot of it? Its on 2 levels, what du mean
Edd
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and deffo knock those stairs down and rebuild them
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be careful with that garage, looks like an asbestos prefab thingy

other than that, turf, gravel, decking. all cheap, and all work well
Ally
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Its is asbestos rob

Gotta remove the panels in full protective suits and masks without breaking it (impossible) then get a permit and take it to the tip
Jake
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Ill build you a brick garage on the cheap
Ally
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no thanks Jake, id like a proper one with an up and over door and a door at the back going into the garden so i can drive round the back at night, park then walk through the garden into the house
Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
Flatten the lot of it? Its on 2 levels, what du mean



right ok obviously the lower part is pretty limited but the top part knock it all down leave space for garage turf it all build new path and stick some fences up


lower part demolish staircase and rebuild it further over to the right,repaint all the brickwork and generally tidy it up
Robin
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It should be ok as long as its not blue asbestos, thats the one you wanna watch out for

Its also not that bad a job, if you've got suits and masks then you'll be fine, but like you say, its not possible to get it off without breaking it

It looks like a good starting point for a nice garden though
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knock the garage down and dig up the whole lot. Flatten out the top level and turf it. Don't have to get another garage in straight away, sometimes it's good to start from a blank canvas like what I've done. Get it looking nice first.

Rebuild those steps, and put some nice tiles down for the path and 'forecourt'. Get the wall up and it'll all start looking nice.

Thing is it's hard to imagine what it can look like when it's like that. Will take a lot of work and money but it will be worth it in the end. Now that the weather is a bit nicer you won't mind putting the work in outside.
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I thought about having it all done in decking, in 3 levels

the lowest one by the kitchen, then up abit to the middle 'gardeny' bit, then up another level to the garage and the gate

Does anyone know how much work that would be? would i have to support each side if its lower than next doors?

Also am i looking at thousands for that?
Ally
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Originally posted by robmarriott
Its also not that bad a job, if you've got suits and masks then you'll be fine, but like you say, its not possible to get it off without breaking it



du know any more rob? im scared to touch it as i know fuck all

we are gunna have to break the panels to get them off, theres no way around it
Kathryn W
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I wouldnt say thousands id say a couple of hundred...

Ally i am sure you can get your local council to come and remove the garage for you
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8th Jun 06 at 10:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hard lanscaping is big money

you'd be best;

redoing the patio area by the kitchen, and the steps
turfing part of the top bit
getting garage built
decking next to garage (would be almost like a 3rd level)

getting 3 proper levels there wouldnt be cheap
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yes thats going to be a lot as the garden will need a lot of excavation but it will look the business and would add good value to the house so maybe worth it


but deffo leave it to the pro's if you go down that route
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quote:
Originally posted by Ally
quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
Its also not that bad a job, if you've got suits and masks then you'll be fine, but like you say, its not possible to get it off without breaking it



du know any more rob? im scared to touch it as i know fuck all

we are gunna have to break the panels to get them off, theres no way around it


I used to be a landscape gardener, and lots of prep work involved ripping down old garages and stuff

if you cover up, and get PROPER masks, goggles, gloves etc, you'll be fine, dont worry about it, its not as bad as people make out TBH, its long term exposure which causes the damage, but if you are suited up, you wont be exposed anyway

there might be some tips on a random gardening forum somewhere, or google, i'm a bit rusty on it now, its been a while
Ally
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Yeh my mum and dad are coming up (next best thing to professional landscapers ) and ill have some guys come up for quotes i think

I do really like the levels idea, but with supports and stuff i wouldnt want to do it myself!
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Would be looking at about 700 for a garage I'd say. Some bricklayers charge by the brick - say 25p/30p a brick for labour. Then materials.
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just phone up your council they will tell you your local disposal site
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You don't have to have 3 proper levels as such. Like rob said, get some decking next to the new garage with perhaps some tables and chairs on, would be a nice focal point when looking out from the house.

Next one down would be turfed, and then the 'forecourt' would be the lower level.

OR, you could build up steps with sleepers from the forecourt to the middle level spanning the whole width of the garden. That would look pretty cool I reckon.
Ally
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
Would be looking at about 700 for a garage I'd say. Some bricklayers charge by the brick - say 25p/30p a brick for labour. Then materials.


I thought it would be about £2k as the door is £500
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I meant just the shell. On second thoughts it maybe more if its a cavity wall.

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