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PaulW
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   20th May 06 at 11:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Supposed to be doing an oil change on emmas clio today...

Went halfrauds to get some oil and filter, the oil filter they 'said' was for the car was infact the wrong one i already knew what size it was, but they were convinced they were right (I hate it when I go in, knowing what I want, and they try tell me its something else) so firstly got them to go look at the damn car to see I was right, the gimp didnt know what to say and then had the cheek to say 'thats the wrong one on the engine mr'... fools

So, I now have oil and a filter...

next issue, what the fuck is the sump nut needing to take it off?? Looks like an allen key or torx bit?! GAY!! Why the hell cant they just use a normal bolt like on vaux engines...

Also, the container i thought i could use, has a god damn hole in it, so now i'm routing about to find something else to drain about 3.5litres of oil into which wont leak

new house + no money = fun doing an oil change
Marc
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20th May 06 at 11:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is it raining there too?
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 12:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes... yes it is
Marc
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20th May 06 at 12:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Excellant.
Doug
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20th May 06 at 12:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah the french cars use hex keys (i belive) so its off down to Halfords again unless you own a set

Will prob be an 8mm one but I cant say for sure
mav
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20th May 06 at 12:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

all good fun
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 12:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

bollocks to the hex keys, it can stay

ill jam a screwdriver in it or something & say the cars fucked, so she can buy something better (and not french)
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 13:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok closer inspection, the bolt is a square, not a hex shape, so is more than likely rounded off on the inside

how the hell can I get this done now??

bloody shit...
Dave A
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20th May 06 at 13:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like its not down to the car being french but due to you not having the right tools

and yes, french cars are crap anyway
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no i do have the right tools now, i attacked the shed and grabbed a load!

the inside of the bolt is definately rounded, reason its square, looks like someone smacked something in it to take the old one out & were too lazy to just replace with a new bolt
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20th May 06 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mole grips
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 13:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tried, they wont even clasp on the edge...
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20th May 06 at 13:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/sump-plug_Garage-Equipment-Tools_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ30896

I know halfords sell some square sump plug removal tools, although not sure on sizes and stuff?
Could try giving them a ring?

[Edited on 20-05-2006 by tom_simes]
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20th May 06 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All opels here use those horrible torx bolts... for everything... not a standard bolt in sight...
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tom - i have the square plug for it, but the damn thing is fully rounded inside how the hell it got like that i have no idea

got the nut out though, managed to the moles to grip.
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20th May 06 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

90% of new vauxhalls have a T45 torx bolt in the sump
theres the odd diesel with a good old nut
The reno sump bolts are square and require a proper socket to remove them
they are well gay
how much did it cost for oil and filter from halfrauds?
my mates find it cheaper to pay me to do it and get the vauxhall bulk oil
its about 48p a litre and its no rubbish either
costs me under a fiver to change the oil and filter on my turbo so it gets done every 2k or so
Danny H
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20th May 06 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Really bugs me these torx bolts. Why the fuck are the so commonly used nowadays, and they round off if you slip a couple of times, then your fucked.
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20th May 06 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they use less material per bolt
I find them fine
dont round off that bad
Danny H
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20th May 06 at 15:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They do if you buy a used car and someones done a bodge and scarper
PaulW
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20th May 06 at 15:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tbh i also have no issue with the torx bolts, grip better too and like said, they dont round off

managed to barter them down to 15.86 for both oil and filter (should of been over 20) but as i'm not paying, i dont care!

usually I also get the vaux stuff at trade price, but thats only back home in northwich as i know the guys at the dealership, but dont know anyone as yet around liverpool
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20th May 06 at 17:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How did you barter down Halfords? just moaning, or on the tradecard?
TomWilly
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20th May 06 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im no expert but some are supposed to be square you just need the right tool, its




or even maybe a 24mm spanner if the plug is hexagon

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20th May 06 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Like he said; the hole was rounded, which is an impressive feat in itself for whoever did that.
TomWilly
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20th May 06 at 18:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my bad

PaulW
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20th May 06 at 18:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



tom_sines - i just started going off saying wtf why you trying to charge me 7.29 for an oil filter when there like 3 elsewhere & such, just kept on at them until they caved in

think i made the girl behind the counter cry though remind me never to go to aintree halfords again

 
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