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Steve
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4th May 06 at 20:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I dont think you can quite say the lupo would be gone
veedub-g60
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Well perhaps not gone but a corsa certainly would not catch a Lupo throught the twisties!!
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4th May 06 at 21:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

anyone else any opinions on a lupo gti vs a corsa XE being beaten round bends?
SetH
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4th May 06 at 21:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Never driven an XE corsa, guess the handling probably ranges from abysmal to ok though?

Read plenty of reviews praising the lupos chassis though.

Only way to be sure is to track the 2 i guess?
Ian
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4th May 06 at 21:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Clearly they're close, check post 1.
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The Lupo Gti chassis is excellent, In my opinion its one of the best handeling front wheel drive cars about, second to the VW Corrado of course (Used to have one of those and I miss it so much!) Like I said its the closest thing to the Mk1 GTI!!!!
Volkswagens Rock!!
Steve
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4th May 06 at 21:24   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mate had a lupo gti, it didnt handle as well as my 106gti, drove both
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
mate had a lupo gti, it didnt handle as well as my 106gti, drove both

Really? Surprised by that, what with the 106 having crappy torsion bar rear suspension!!
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4th May 06 at 21:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

torsion bar setup is good if the surface is flat and dry


[Edited on 04-05-2006 by Steve]
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
torsion bar setup is good if the surface is flat and dry


[Edited on 04-05-2006 by Steve]


No use in the UK then!!
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I think you need to compare like for like....

A Lupo GTi needs comparing with a new Corsa 1.8 if anything. Probably not a lot in it, although the Lupo is going to be more fun due to its chuckability

Dynamically, they are far superior to "any" older Corsa. 10ish yrs newer design for starters, hence why they would keep a bigger engined Corsa honest on a track & twisties.....it aint all about BHP

My mk2 Golf with circa 200BHP will humble Impreza STi's, Cossies & the like.. Maybe these 2L 16v Corsas would like to have a play with my car on track. Think the Golf would prove how dynamically inferior the old Corsa is
mwg
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So you guys are sad enough to sign up on here to defend the Lupo when there wasn't really anything to defend them for as most people have said they like them...
Adam_B
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christ, you VW lot are defensive arnt you
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Well the point i think we are trying to make is a 2L 16v Corsa SHOULD pull away in a straight-line. Hardly worth posting really.

150+BHP from a Red top XE....

Compare a Lupo to the equivalent Corsa & its a different story though....

Nuff said
Rob B
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Yes compare a 2ltr Golf Gti, to a 1.6 Corsa it gets owned
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I compare my own car to all the XE powered offerings....


Adam_B
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how heavy is your golf? what suspension and brakes you running?
chrismc
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Maybe 1020-1040 kgs

Koni Coilovers & Brembo 4 pots with 304mm 2 piece discs & Pagid Blue race pads..25/28 Neuspeed, H&R ARB set up

Quaife ATB diff. 2L 16v motor with flowed head, 4 branch, Supersprint Gp.A system, Schrick cams, Jenvey throttle bodies & DTA management. Circa 200ishBHP@ 7300rpm & 150lbs/ft

Not your average 16v mk2 Golf with a 2L block
Adam_B
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most of the XE corsas on here dont even compare to that. AKs might be intresting tho.

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/garage.php?action=usergarage&owner=ak&carid=3231&page=all

white one lower down the page. Similar power, lighter, but less work on the suspension i think.
Adam_B
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200 at the wheels or fly?
chrismc
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Flywheel....

Less than a similar spec'd XE. The red tops are a corking motor

A red top with similar work would be a good 15-20BHP up on the VW. Better engine put simply

200BHP in a mk2 is enough for good fun though (even though 15-20mpg means i dont use it too much now)
Rob B
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i love mk2 golf's pics please, there is a club ove my way called FLOG, there are about 4 of them including a rallye, one with a carrera 4 engine and they all look amazing ! IMO they are slow standard figures though even though there supposidly a GTI.
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engine!!




Car
Rob B
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lovely just how they should be
Ry_B
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Looks really

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