antonOO2
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i know theres a few on here inc Craig W.
Im currently taking a protein based suppliment call muscle Fuel which i got recomended.Ive been taking it for about a month now and im seeing the gains muscle wise but also although small im seeing a slight weight gain around the hips.Ive always had a high Metabolism and neva had a pronblem with this before.Im wondering wether i should be taking pure protein and wther this is giving me stuff that i dont really want .need?What protein supps do peeps on here take?
My current training is:
Mon - Bis and Chest
Tues Shoulders Tris
Weds -off
Thurs -Back
Fri -cardio
Sat Legs
Sun -Off
Im only getting in about 1.5 hours cardio tops
All weights sessions are about 45 imins to an hour.
What are peoples diets like ?
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abdus
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I used to do:
A.Chest, Back, Shoulders
Rest
B.Legs, Calfs, Biceps, Triceps
Rest
then A again
Rest
Rest
B
Rest
A
and so on....
Sticked with very basic but mass building exercises...No machines, just free weights...with max 10-12 reps for each. Lift max weight without cheating
Sessions won't go over 1hr max with just enough bt sets to regain breath
That was the best I made out for gains....with BCAA, glutamine, Creatine and MegaMass2000 as plus
Eat 4-6 times a day but 1hr within training ending to refuel...
Lots of oats, cereals, eggs, bananas, protein (meat, chicken, fish, etc...)
no ab works or cardio for 6-8 weeks...just training and a lot of sleep...LOL
You actually gain weight and build when you are resting...not training
In 3 months gained 5.5 kgs pure mass....
Not doing for 3 yrs now...Bad...work committment and studies
[Edited on 13-04-2006 by abdus]
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ssj_kakarot
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use "on wheys 100% gold standard" its in my one of the best out there, if not the best. most body building forums/people ect will tel you that, protein shakes should not casue bloating.
creatine in some people will casue bloating, water retension, you may possibly be the type of person this occures with.
creatine is a love or hate thing, some people love using it some people hate it and say it has no effect. but if you want to still use it, try a pure creatine mono or something.
but supplements ar supplements you should be concentrating on getting your fuel from actual food not shakes.
i only eat eggs, chicken, tuna, wholeweat pasta, brown rice, wholeweat bred (occasionally) and oats; and vegtables and fruit, mabye natural yogurt and cottage cheese occasionally although i hate the stuff.
if you eat correctly 5-6 meals a day, pretty much stuff your face with the food i mentioned above you will grow no problem.
also you can increase cardio if you notie your self putting on fat.
may be from your diet however if its not very clean, usually body building problems are coming from the kichen not the gym or supplements.
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SteveW
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sounds like Muscle Fuel is more of a mix.. ProMax from MaxiMuscle is pure protein..
If your pretty skinny normally then that amount of CV work is cool. Otherwise you will have to kick it up a knotch to burn off more fat. Doing over 1hr CV is best cos thats when you really start burning fat cells.
As for diet... a Protein drink to start the day. Then a mid morning snack of furit and a raw carrot with a small amount of protein.. Then for lunch have a chicken or turkey sandwich on brown bread with salad.. NO MAYO.
Then a mid afternoon snack or a protein bar. Then dinner of steak or fish or chicken.. dont have it with too many carbs. have brown rice instead.
also drink LOADS of water. 2-3L a day should be cool
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antonOO2
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cheers..
Yeh that is what im looking at today my diet.Due to work and that i have found it hard to stick to it.Finding myself with long gaps between food which is not good and i know this.Definastly looking for a protein only shake with out all the carbs and that i think.
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antonOO2
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Cheers Steve
Im going to sit down with the nutritionalist at the gym later and get my diet sorted properly.
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abdus
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well, buy some meal replacements bar...they do provide enough protein to make up for the lost meals...
BTW dont do any cardio for 6-8 weeks..why burn the calories?
[Edited on 13-04-2006 by abdus]
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ssj_kakarot
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food is not that hard it just take time the night before to get things ready.
when i cook i generally do it in bulk to lst me a few days, and just stick the food in a plastic tub
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ssj_kakarot
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just as a rought guide for protein intake 1.5 times your body weight in pounds is what you should be amiing for mabye 2 times
e.g.
if i weight a 100 lb i should be eating 150g of protein in a day.
also to actually gain mass and get big, its simple you need to take in more calories than you are burning, so aim for 3000 odd a day.
more carbs also if your trying to put mass on.
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SteveW
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http://store.maximuscle.com/epages/maximuscle.storefront/443e4df8008cbc5c2740ac1001b1065a/Product/View/1001
only got 2.04g of Carbs per 30g serving.
and 24g of Protein
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antonOO2
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bars are an option
Planining ahead for the next day or two is what i will be doing from now on.Rice chicken and plastic tubs 
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ssj_kakarot
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quote:
Originally posted by antonOO2
bars are an option
Planining ahead for the next day or two is what i will be doing from now on.Rice chicken and plastic tubs
yeah thtats the idea, bars are a waste of money far to expensive.
if your that desperate try mixing raw oats, a bit of semi-skimmed milk, lots of pure honey and 2 scoops of your faviourite flavour protein shake in a bowl (add raisins if you wish)
lay it and pak it all on a backing tray and stick it in the fridge, now thats quit tastes just like flap jack and is packed full of carbs, protein and lots of calories.
[Edited on 13-04-2006 by ssj_kakarot]
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SteveW
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I have been working out with free weights for a little while now (3 months maybe)
havnt used any suppliments YET.. and i have got a lot bigger. arms, chest and neck are getting damn big (well a lot bigger than before)
Neck is now 19 1/2"
arms are 17"
chest... well i dunno but its getting there.
just need to step up the cardio now and "cut the gut"
going to be using suppliments to get me in shape a little faster and easier
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antonOO2
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Protein 53g
Carbs 32g
Per serving
Im currently having four aday plus meals?
USN's high protein-low carb Muscle Fuel Dynamic is based on the original Muscle Fuel, but with ultra high protein (53 grams per serving) and low carbs (32 grams per serving). Fortified with free form amino acids and BCAA's, vitamins, minerals and essential fats, Muscle Fuel Dynamic is unmatched in it's extreme formulation, quality and flavour and provides a superior combination of nutrients for any active person, from elite athletes to recreational sportsman.
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abdus
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drink a lot of water too...flush the system and remove toxins...
Also dont forget a lot of fruits, vegs and greens
Actually eat everything but always after a training session and a protein shake within 20 mins after session ending.
BCAA 15-20 mins before session and creatine and glutamine after meal with apple/grape juice for easier absorption 
[Edited on 13-04-2006 by abdus]
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antonOO2
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Also dont forget a lot of fruits, vegs and greens
this is a valid point since alll the talk of carbs .proteins etc started i have tended to neglect this side of my diet.
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SteveW
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eat about 6 fruits a day. Not including whatever veg you have with your dinner.
keep healthy 
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abdus
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Also never miss squats...and deadlifts...
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antonOO2
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Also never miss squats...and deadlifts...
Why do you say this ?i know they are crucial as without training your legs the rest of your body will not grow?
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abdus
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quote:
Originally posted by antonOO2
Also never miss squats...and deadlifts...
Why do you say this ?i know they are crucial as without training your legs the rest of your body will not grow?
well, squat involve almost evey muscle in your body and even your core muscles come into play...that's y I said not to train abs for 4-6 weeks.
So does deadlift which will definitely strengthen your lower back, hams at the back as well as other muscles like the traps..You dont want a beautiful body with a giraffe neck..LOL. And doing this, you won't need to isolate the traps.
Stick to basic exercises targetting many primary and secondary muscles.
Isolation is intermediate-advance. Gain the mass first
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abdus
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and please use your training belt all the time. and a lot of strecthing before and during exercises
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antonOO2
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Gain the mass first
I know this is important but im going away in ten weeks and i dont want to be all mass and no definition.It is a tricky time as i dont want to gain to much mass without being toned.
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abdus
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You want to get ripped? LOL
nah...gaining mass will help you bring out the muscles where they need to.
You will get the basic definition which is nice.
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antonOO2
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Cheers for all you input peeps ,ive learnt a fair bit.Deffinatly found out that my diet could well be my problem
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Jake
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dont stretch before you work out. The muscles are tight and wont take kindly to random stretching. Do 1 or 2 warm up sets at the start of a session.
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